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<title>dadalama</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2006 14:04:25 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I heard that the down payment is 40% for ppl who are not Chinese citizens.

The real estate bubble is getting really out of hand, here. Young couples earning a combined monthly total of 13000RMB would buy a 2-million apartment! Of course their aged parents come up with the down payment......so basically, the real estate developers in China are robbing old folks of their retirement fund, in a government-sponsored, nation-wide scam.

You can also sense the curious rivalry with Beijing, when you chat with Shanghai-nese, many of whom seem to be proud of the fact that Shanghai housing price has made it far less livable than Beijing. How would Shanghai stay competitive like this?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Zat Liu</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:37:12 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;what&apos;s a 内小房, lawrence?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Lawrence sheed</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 15:53:06 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Currently its better to rent.

Buying a place means 30% cash down.
Mean&apos;s monthly repayments.  You still need to pay management fee&apos;s as well.

Your average 1 Million apartment will cost you about 7-8000RMB a month to service with fee&apos;s, mortgage and other ancilliary expenses.

You can rent a decent apartment in that range for +-4000.

It was worthwhile buying property a few years ago.  I bought my first shack (ok, 内小房) in 2000. Sold that a year later, paid the rent for my next place up front for a year, and waited for the right apartment to come along.  I bought the next one at the right time, and allegedly the price has doubled, although its not as easy to sell as the market would have you believe.

I&apos;ve found and rented a suitable 1 bedroom in a central location for 1000RMB (although I had to spend a couple of days fumigating, painting and throwing out the landlords crap), so its definitely a renters market ;)


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<title>Jay</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:25:27 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Sadly, it stopped being an irony long time ago, ppl have all but resigned to the fact. Worse yet, in some corners of this city, ppl seem to display a rather perverse pride about locals NOT being able to afford to purchase a home, cuz what can be further proof that the city has indeed arrived on the international stage? I really can&apos;t argue w/ that logic.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Zat Liu</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:55:28 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&apos;t you think the irony of being a native Shanghainese but couldn&apos;t buy a small apartment in her home town? I&apos;m not sure how this works in Shanghai but Chinese tradition is it&apos;s important to have your own property.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>markg</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 08:58:13 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Does being Shanghainese have any bearing on whether or not to buy real estate in Shanghai?
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<title>Zat Liu</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 22:49:00 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I know, Paul, but I have to this again, &quot;well, this is China.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Paul</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:26:01 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;uumm...rising prices dampening consumers desire to buy - what a conundrum!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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