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This report in the Chinese press first caught our attention regarding the possibility that the top brass at Google.com are rethinking the self-censoring Google.cn engine and their China policy in general. Google co-founder Sergey Brin made these remarks recently on a trip to Washington, DC:
"It's perfectly reasonable to do something different, to say, 'Look, we're going to stand by the principle against censorship and we won't actually operate there.' That's an alternate path," Brin said. "It's not where we chose to go right now, but I can sort of see how people came to different conclusions about doing the right thing."
Of course, these remarks, despite coming from Sergey himself, don't amount to actions. What is for sure is that Google has had its fair share of problems in China. As most of you probably have discovered, accessing Google.com from within China is a bitch. Gmail's been finicky. One thing Shanghaiist has noticed, however, is that news.google.com is working better than it has in previous days, when clicking on links to news items got us nowhere -- even run of the mill news was coming up blank. As of this morning, we were able to use news.google.com without a proxy server, which is the best part of waking up (despite not having Folger's in our cup).
Brin's remarks, taken at face value, seem not to be indications of a volte-face on Google's part, but rather yet another move in the complex carrot-and-stick strategy that Google uses with the Chinese government.
But wait -- we were about to give you a link to the Chinese government's Thursday reply to the effect that foreign internet companies had to comply with Chinese laws in China, but Google news is no longer working, which is the government's slightly less eloquent way of making the same point. So we went over to the enemy -- Baidu -- and found this report (in Chinese) -- quite quickly and painlessly, we might add. Upon further "research" we found that news.google.CN works fine, but that under the science/technology news banner there is no mention of this news, whereas on the simplified Chinese news.google.com site we found several articles after scrolling down just a wee bit. Of course, what links you can get from the .cn version all work fine.
Anyhow, Google China's already replied to the rumors swirling around by stating that they will not be leaving China anytime soon, saying that people were reading way too much into Brin's remarks, and that all the problems that both the company and its users in China have faced are simply "growing pains" that they will, we assume, somehow outgrow. So when you think about this, you too should remember the optimistic lyrics of the Growing Pains theme song:
Show me that smile again. (Show me that smile) Don’t waste another minute on your cryin’. We're nowhere near the end (nowhere near) The best is ready to begin.
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So Brin says one thing and Google does another. China cracks down on Google for what Brin says and everyone outside China can now point out that Google seems to itself view its China foray as wrong. Nobody ever said China would be easy.
well, schmidt or whoever the other billionaire is said way back when they unveiled Cn that they were going on this path, and now Brin says something else--i don't know what the deal is--i mean these are remarks, and you know, being who they are they perhaps feel more freedom to say what they think, even if that strays from the official line. but the other possiiblity is some kind of good cop bad cop routine. In any case, they were in DC because of some thing to with premiums paid for faster internet services from companies like them--so even though that has no direct relation to China and the ethics of search engines per se, i think that perhaps they might have tailored their remarks to those in Congress that look askance at their CN self-censoring policy. These are all speculations from someone who doesn't know business (my childhood lemonade stand folded in a mere matter of hours) so i'm probably just talking out of my ass. certainly, after making all this effort they aren;'t just going to leave because of their moral principles or evne the flack the yare taking--China isn't easy and i think these guys are persistent. Google's expansion to China is something that for better or worse goes down in the history books, I think they will give it their all first.
Don’t Do Evil?
Google have been given a pretty hard time of late with its venture into China. But are they really compromising their mission of Don’t Do Evil?
I’m not so sure that they are. After all, what is the alternative – completely ignore nearly 20% of the World’s population by saying we’re not playing by your Government’s rules so we won’t engage at all. Life just isn’t like that – well not for people who want to progress and engage with different cultures from around the World and move the human race on. By isolating countries that we simply don’t agree with we get into situations where we start to dehumanise these Governments to the point where we start to think of them as alien, awful factions of people that we then learn nothing about and they in turn learn nothing from us. We don’t progress, and before you know it we are isolated from each other and paranoia and fear sets in and we are at war.
Haven’t we all at some time compromised, or more accurately adjusted, our behaviour when we have travelled abroad on holiday to accommodate local laws, customs and traditions? I certainly have. The problem for Google is how they possibly deal with these far reaching ethical and cultural tensions between their mission, “Don’t Do Evil”, and the fact that they are being complicit in holding back information which will inevitably give people in China a limited view of the world.
Well, Google isn’t censoring these people it is the Chinese government and Google are respecting their national laws. Whilst we may not like it that is what goes on in China and whilst it may be at odds with our sense of openness many Chinese people that I know love their country and their Government. They are proud of China’s history and of its vast development over the last 15 years which couldn’t have been achieved without the Chinese Government opening itself up to foreign investment and capitalism.
Whilst censorship has serious and far-reaching implications, child labour/slavery, an entirely worse evil in my view, has been prevalent in China for years. I have witnessed such atrocious factories myself, and being horrified by them and the conditions in which kids from 11 onwards work in. But what of the clothes that you wear? Can you safely say these were not produced by these forgotten children? Take a look around your house and tell me that you are 100% sure that the TV, computer, microwave or trainers that you own were produced by cheerful workers with healthcare and a fair wage. These products are produced cheaper and cheaper, at our demand, and with that they become more and more available to people with less wealth from around the world – which develops the world we live in. But what of the children that produce them? Their lives are of course consigned to the reality that they are the “human resources” that simply live, work and breathe their slavery every day of every week of every year in the most squalid and brutal of conditions. I don’t however see everyone reaching to throw their PCs and TVs out of the window in disgust at the horrors that they have been complicit in. And, if these kids, whose parents simply couldn’t afford to feed, weren’t doing this work, what would they be doing? Starvation possibly or maybe sold into the sex industry? Not an easy situation to wrestle with is it...
So, do we engage with China abiding by their laws and customs and congratulate Google’s bravery for embracing a very difficult situation or do we divorce ourselves from it and start boycotting China until they start listening to us and doing things our way? All sounds a bit arrogant to me that we somehow know best. I choose engaging with China every day, of every week, of every year, with the hope, and belief, that we can learn, progress and influence each other. As China becomes more affluent and integrated with other global cultures, and we become more knowledgeable and understanding of them, maybe then we will start to see the Government ease up on its tight reign on censorship of its people and then maybe some of the kids who are making your PCs, Clothes, TVs can begin to take greater ownership of their lives, lift themselves out of poverty, and actually be able to afford a PC to search Google, in its unabridged form. I wonder what they will make of our amazing democracy…
Google, in my view, should be applauded for engaging with the Chinese Government and having the strength to struggle with some of these incredibly complicated and challenging ethical tensions. Don’t Do Evil is something that we should all aspire to do and we should of course, where possible, avoid being complicit in the misery of others. But let’s be clear that this will not be achieved easily and a healthy mix of campaigning and commercial engagement is the way forward in my view. Anyone, of course, as I do, who has an issue with censorship or Human Rights abuse in China should write to the Chinese government and campaign against it or sign up to Amnesty Internationals http://www.irrepressible.info or visit http://www.amnesty.org
Let’s remember that the Chinese government are the lawmakers, not Google, and few of us can say we haven’t been in complicit in the misery of others, wittingly or not, sometime or other in the past. This is something that I am constantly working on minimising as I am sure Google are…
Stuart Wood