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<title>Fred Fox</title>
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<description>&lt;p&gt;I have drank my way through 1/2 the world.  From 10 RMB a bottle to 20,000 RMB a bottle white/red wine from acorss the world.  Most Chinese wine is really bad.  If you want to get drunk without any headaches, trying some other countries.  I agreed, Grace vineyard&apos;s white wine is nice, and palatable.  Dynasty is decent, and best drunk with Sprite or concoct it with OJ to make Sangria.  Dragon Seal is so bad, that I had to swear!! F&amp;#@#!@  bad. I think a lot of them are overpriced, and price in Chinese wine does not mean quality!  I think xinjian wine is horrible as well.  Mostly, I just don&apos;t think you can sip Chinese wine.  They are meant to be drunk by cases, and blind folded.  Even the best Chinese wine is not comparable to a any decent wine other parts of the wine country.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Orpheus</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 22:18:20 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;A cabernet under &quot;Huadong&quot; brand, from Yantai, Shandong, takes the highest honor that a Chinese wine has ever achieved for this diligent wine aficionado: it is actually mediocre, rather than plain bad. It is comparable to a $7 California cab or an Aussie shiraz, the kind that has less character and therefore pleases many.

Two caveats, however: first, you cannot find this wine easily outside of Shandong Peninsula; secondly, the price is ~130-200RMB, which puts it in the same price range as a fairly drinkable (and far more interesting) young Bordeaux that you can get from Carrefour, or better yet, D.T.Asia, directly. 

So, wine buff hopefuls: I guess I just lost that aparkle of interest in your eyes......&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>epay</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 12:51:34 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;In my opinion the issue with most Chinese wines is not whether they are palatable, but whether they are potable. Since spending real money on Chinese wine inevitably ends in woe, I have only experimented with the cheap ones. I&apos;ve had a good imitation of grape Gatorade, vinegar, and one Tibetan Dry that tasted like beef jerky. 

The only acceptable one I&apos;ve found is Suntime&apos;s Manas dry red (新天玛纳斯). The winery is in Xinjiang, and the wine itself, which will set you back a whopping 16 RMB per bottle, is decent. Still haven&apos;t tried Suntime&apos;s other wines.

On a separate but related note, I was lingering in Metro&apos;s wine aisle the other day and saw a bottle of Franzia. Franzia comes in bottles???&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>A.Robb</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 22:49:47 +0800</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I&apos;ve found most Chinese reds completely undrinkable, though some are merely &apos;bad&apos;.  The lone exception in my experience is Grace Vineyard from Shanxi Province.  Try it...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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