Guangzhou set to be first 'developed' city in China

Fuck you shanghainest!

how about your "hukou" population?

son of a bitch!you shanghai fucking bitch!

why do you think shanghai is always better than other cities in China?who do u think u r?

if shanghai is the first city set to developed

would you say the same "hukou" population problem to yourself?would you doubt yourself?

mother fucker shanghai dogs!!!!!!!!!

Isn't this the same in the west? Certainly in Australia this is true. Yes, the gap is bigger here, but thats a stage of development, a stage the west has gone through. If you were to travel back 80 years or so to the west you would probably find probably a very similar disparity.

Guanzhou and Shanghai are very developed, but at the expense of the countryside. City hukou holders are members of the developed world at the expense of the peasants, who are not. So it's nothing to be proud of really.

There are a couple of issues with this news:

1. Stats are relative to a certain extent, and a dollar figure doesnt always give u an indiction of how easy/difficult it is to live somewhere

2. Stats should be based on houkou. When stats are done on any city they are done usually, in this case, on registered residents. Every city, even developed ones, have 'floating populations' of migrants and others who aren't counted. This is not unusual.

3. ‘Developed cities’ (NYC, London, Sydney) have ‘bad parts’- slums, poor areas etc etc. This does not excludfe a city (it seems) from the status of developed.

It’s a credit to the PRC that they have got a few cities close to developed, and this is a really good sign of thigns to come.

Those stats on poverty in Shanghai vs NYC are UN ones, they arent bunk. Shanghai does have a range of social welfare measures for the poor.

or the little golfcarts that zip you around the airport for 10 kuai

Guangzhou's greatest attribute is the departures lounge at the international airport.

With all the security guards and waitresses and shop staff still making 700 rmb a month, and all those who make even less, what does a figure like this even mean except that there's still an incredible gap between both ends of the wage range? We have slums in Guangzhou!

Aside from guns in NYC, that statistic is bunk. What do the international statisticians consider to be a "poor" child in Shanghai? There's no WIC, food stamps, shelters, food basket or free clinics in Shanghai.

A poor child in Shanghai is, according to international statistics, more likely to live longer, be healthier, and get a better education than a child of the same poverty in New York City.

Statistics need to be taken with a grain of salt, even statitics coming from the so called "developed west".

The hukou population not being counted is typical of the Chinese government. They are in such a hurry.

Yes, it is developing rapidly. But I have not been to one place I would consider 'fully' developed. Not even Shanghai or Guangzhou. Cities in China are 'developed' on the surface (if at all). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, at least some places are developed in certain cities now versus nowhere in the past. Progress is being made.

I think if they don't recognize that it is only partial development it is going to hurt China in the future.

Can you drink the water in Guangzhou? (or does that not matter?)

The hukou population not being counted is typical of the Chinese government. They are in such a hurry.

Yes, it is developing rapidly. But I have not been to one place I would consider 'fully' developed. Not even Shanghai or Guangzhou. Cities in China are 'developed' on the surface (if at all). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, at least some places are developed in certain cities now versus nowhere in the past. Progress is being made.

I think if they don't recognize that it is only partial development it is going to hurt China in the future.

Can you drink the water in Guangzhou? (or does that not matter?)

what other standards are there? A senior cadre simply waving his hand and proclaiming as such.

I think your point about the statistics being based on hukou population is an important one. It also leads me to another question: Is the only standard of "developed" to be per capita GDP? Are there not other standards, legal protections, government services, standard of living/quality of life to be considered? What other measures are there?

Hooray! China is now developed! toot the horns and tell Jesus, the waiting is over and we can all celebrate!

Guangzhou? Developed a rash...