Shanghaiist: Guangzhou set to be first 'developed' city in China

Cantonese

Tue, 15 May 2007 23:08:16 +0800

Fuck you shanghainest! how about your "hukou" population? son of a bitch!you shanghai fucking bitch! why do you think shanghai is always better than other cities in China?who do u think u r? if shanghai is the first city set to developed would you say the same "hukou" population problem to yourself?would you doubt yourself? mother fucker shanghai dogs!!!!!!!!!

greg baines

Thu, 11 Jan 2007 20:20:04 +0800

Isn't this the same in the west? Certainly in Australia this is true. Yes, the gap is bigger here, but thats a stage of development, a stage the west has gone through. If you were to travel back 80 years or so to the west you would probably find probably a very similar disparity.

khg

Thu, 11 Jan 2007 14:44:33 +0800

Guanzhou and Shanghai are very developed, but at the expense of the countryside. City hukou holders are members of the developed world at the expense of the peasants, who are not. So it's nothing to be proud of really.

Greg

Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:45:38 +0800

There are a couple of issues with this news: 1. Stats are relative to a certain extent, and a dollar figure doesnt always give u an indiction of how easy/difficult it is to live somewhere 2. Stats should be based on houkou. When stats are done on any city they are done usually, in this case, on registered residents. Every city, even developed ones, have 'floating populations' of migrants and others who aren't counted. This is not unusual. 3. ‘Developed cities’ (NYC, London, Sydney) have ‘bad parts’- slums, poor areas etc etc. This does not excludfe a city (it seems) from the status of developed. It’s a credit to the PRC that they have got a few cities close to developed, and this is a really good sign of thigns to come.

greg baines

Wed, 10 Jan 2007 10:23:18 +0800

Those stats on poverty in Shanghai vs NYC are UN ones, they arent bunk. Shanghai does have a range of social welfare measures for the poor.

Beetroot

Tue, 09 Jan 2007 08:38:51 +0800

or the little golfcarts that zip you around the airport for 10 kuai

gwen from tempe

Mon, 08 Jan 2007 19:05:33 +0800

Guangzhou's greatest attribute is the departures lounge at the international airport.

Feng37

Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:28:33 +0800

With all the security guards and waitresses and shop staff still making 700 rmb a month, and all those who make even less, what does a figure like this even mean except that there's still an incredible gap between both ends of the wage range? We have slums in Guangzhou!

nanheyangrouchuan

Mon, 08 Jan 2007 01:07:09 +0800

Aside from guns in NYC, that statistic is bunk. What do the international statisticians consider to be a "poor" child in Shanghai? There's no WIC, food stamps, shelters, food basket or free clinics in Shanghai.

greg

Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:26:30 +0800

A poor child in Shanghai is, according to international statistics, more likely to live longer, be healthier, and get a better education than a child of the same poverty in New York City. Statistics need to be taken with a grain of salt, even statitics coming from the so called "developed west".

Jenn

Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:51:07 +0800

The hukou population not being counted is typical of the Chinese government. They are in such a hurry. Yes, it is developing rapidly. But I have not been to one place I would consider 'fully' developed. Not even Shanghai or Guangzhou. Cities in China are 'developed' on the surface (if at all). This isn't necessarily a bad thing, at least some places are developed in certain cities now versus nowhere in the past. Progress is being made. I think if they don't recognize that it is only partial development it is going to hurt China in the future. Can you drink the water in Guangzhou? (or does that not matter?)

Jenn

Sat, 06 Jan 2007 18:47:08 +0800

nanheyangrouchuan

Sat, 06 Jan 2007 12:21:34 +0800

what other standards are there? A senior cadre simply waving his hand and proclaiming as such.

J. from the Granite Studio

Sat, 06 Jan 2007 06:36:43 +0800

I think your point about the statistics being based on hukou population is an important one. It also leads me to another question: Is the only standard of "developed" to be per capita GDP? Are there not other standards, legal protections, government services, standard of living/quality of life to be considered? What other measures are there?

Steve

Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:10:10 +0800

Hooray! China is now developed! toot the horns and tell Jesus, the waiting is over and we can all celebrate!

Saiyung

Sat, 06 Jan 2007 00:42:14 +0800

Guangzhou? Developed a rash...