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Tue, 13 Nov 2007 10:38:16 +0800

Yeah, senseless is the word. Now Carrefour is the one facing legal liability. Sure, they should have had more security and staff on hand to handle it... but really, an 11.5 savings on cooking oil? Carrefour has discounts on hundreds of products everyday, so how could they assume such a stampede, even on an essential good like cooking oil? It'd be nice to round up all the people pushing and stepping on others and have them face some sort of punishment. Sorry but the mobs are starting to get to me after 4 years in Shanghai. The 'me (and my clan first' culture is causing so much needless loss of life. i.e.: http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2007/200711/20071107/article_337240.htm

Chinkerfly

Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:40:33 +0800

After living in Chongqing for the last two years, when I heard this news it made me really frustrated and angry. It really cemented the nagging suspicion in me that there's so many people here in China that a ton of Chinese have lost all concept of how to respect other human beings and it's just raw survival out there, each man for himself. got in a huge argument with my bf about it, he being Chinese and living in Chongqing for the last 15 years, couldn't wrap his head around why I was so upset about the senselessness of this situation. He defended the stampeders by saying that this is what happens because Chinese people are so poor and they just want to save some money. He coupled that with, if they knew beforehand what would happen they would not have done it. Neither of which arguments did anything to make me more sympathetic to the mob. In defense of Chongqing though, the crowds, pushing and shoving, and general animosity towards other human mass that gets in the way is much worse here in the Shanghai subways and buses. Shocked me, since I'd heard Shanghai city fold were more enlightened than the poor country-city migrants of Chongqing.

Shanghaiist: Three dead in Chongqing Carrefour stampede

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