Shanghaiist: Yet another tallest skyscraper for Shanghai?

taihanasie

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:26:51 +0800

Wow! You both are impressive. You've turned a discussion about China's tallest building into a debate about the range of Taiwanese missiles. You're both about as far off topic as the Burj Dubai is going to be tall.

nanheyangrouchuan

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:07:43 +0800

me 1000, china blogosphere 0 stupid expats iht.com/articles/2007/09/28/asia/taiwan.php?WT.mc_id=rssfrontpage Brave Wind 3 globalsecurity.org/military/world/taiwan/hf-3.htm The Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology Second Institute is engaged in follow-up research and development projects, including preparatory research and development of the Hsiung Feng III anti-ship and/or land attack cruise missile weapon system, concerning which few details have been made public. In January 2005 it was reported that Taiwan successfully test-fired the Hsiung Feng III supersonic anti-ship missile. Several Hsiung Feng III missiles were fired from southern Taiwan in the direction of the Pacific in December 2004 in the presence of Defense Minister Lee Jye. The missile has been under development for a decade and failed several early tests The Hsiung Feng III has a range of 300 kilometers (187.5 miles), enough to hit China, 160 kilometers (100 miles) across the Taiwan Strait. The new missile is believed to outperform a similar weapon in China's arsenal, the Russian-made Sunburn. Brave Wind 2E globalsecurity.org/military/world/taiwan/hf-2.htm Hsiung Feng II-E (Brave Wind) In 2001 it was reported that a land attack cruise missile, designated Hsiung Feng 2E, based on the HF-2, has a range of 1,000km. Though only in its development stages, the HF-2E will be a major advance for Tai-wan. For the first time, Taiwan will be able to attack targets as far away as Shanghai. On 05 June 2005 it was repoted that Taiwan had successfully test fired its first long range cruise missile. The exact date of the test was unclear, though there was speculation that it may have been in March 2005. The Hsiung Feng cruise missile, developed by the Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology, was reported to have a range of 1,000 kilometers. Defense Minister Lee Jye witnessed the test firing of the missile from Jiupeng / Chiupeng military base in southern Pingtung county. The missile flew more than 500 kilometers before hitting its target. A small number of the cruise missiles were expected to enter pilot production in late 2005 or early 2006. The Hsiung Feng cruise missile still needs to have its terminal-guidance technology enhanced. Several years may be needed before Taiwan can begin mass production of the missile. Taiwan is striving to build up its capabilities to counter the missile buildup of China, which had targeted the island with at least 700 ballistic missiles by 2005. In August 2005 The China Times reported that Taiwan had begun deploying home-made cruise missiles on mobile launchers that are capable of hitting major military targets in southeast China. The Hsiung Feng missiles, said to have a range of 1,000 kilometers (600 miles), were deployed by the defense ministry's new Missile Command. The missiles were said to cost some 100 million Taiwan dollars (3.13 million US) apiece. Taiwan reportedly successfully test-fired its first cruise missile earlier this year which flew over 500 kilometers before hitting its target. In August 2005 The China Times reported that the Chungshan Institute of Science and Technology, was developing cruise missiles with a range of 2,000 kilometers for further deployment. The Ministry of National Defense spokesman referred to these media reports as a "sheer fabrication"

themanlike

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:30:17 +0800

Nanhe 0: MIB 2 you know i aint a fan of the PRC. but youre as tiresome as those knee-jerk defenders of the PRC.

moneyinabox

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:38:30 +0800

Incorrect. The XF IIE is a cruise missile with an estimated, very short 200km range. Taiwan is 650km from Shanghai. The IIE was designed to strike military targets, primarily airfields, in Fujian province. The XF III is an anti-shipping missile. To further refute your above statement, Taiwanese Vice Defense Minister Ko Chen-heng was quoted ten days ago in Yomiuri Shimbun saying that Taiwan's missiles "aren’t intended to strike civilian targets such as in Shanghai and Hong Kong".

nanheyangrouchuan

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 12:26:53 +0800

4) Xiong Feng missiles don't have the range to make it to Shanghai. Nice try though. The Xiong Feng II and III do, with the III able to reach Shanghai.

moneyinabox

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:26:30 +0800

1) Both designs are rather ugly and don't fit with the current Shanghai skyline. 2) There is no way Shanghai will ever have the world's tallest building. I doubt the Burj Dubai will be overtaken within any of our lifetimes and for good reason: it is a very ugly, worthless building, a testament to misspent oil money. 3) Hoping to finish construction by 2010 is a pipe dream. 4) Xiong Feng missiles don't have the range to make it to Shanghai. Nice try though. 5) They are ruining a perfectly good driving range to build something in this plot.

nanheyangrouchuan

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:55:35 +0800

That's what Shanghai needs, the world's tallest, most vacant office building. Discovery Channel already had a senior engineer discussing the "half mile" building which is Burj Dubai. Those new Shanghai tall buildings will make great targets for Xiong Feng missiles from Taiwan.

shopgirl

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 06:17:41 +0800

come on china, you can do it ^_^