Shanghaiist: Video News: Torch protestors, Olympic merchandising and China's business with Africa

concor1

Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:20:04 +0700

wow, skatching, is insult a sort of freedom of speech? is fabricate news a sort of free press you are brainwashed by your media's secret propganda disgused as objectivery and impartiality for too long.

skaching

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:10:59 +0700

i don't understand why there is such fear of protests. there are protests at all Olympics. there were many in Athens etc. just let people say what they want to say, there is no threat to the events or Chinese people's feelings. unless your feelings can be hurt by people disagreeing with you. in which case it might be helpful to realize that people have a natural right to think and say what they want, government restricts those rights at its own peril. people world wide love freedom of speech, movement, assembly, the press, etc. a little healthy debate about government policy is long overdue. anger is not the way to deal with this situation. people just need to calm down and realize that if you are calm and approach the situation with thoughtfulness and try to understand other people's ideas, everything will be fine. there is no need to make this issue about China vs. "the west" because that isn't really true, there were protests in South Korea as well. Protests are a natural and good way for people to express themselves without having to use violence. if you let people release their feelings through expression, speech, art, etc., they are more likely to attempt to solve problems through peaceful discussion rather than feel like they have no option but to become violent. a harmonious society is very desirable, if a little vague. however, isn't a truly harmonious society, where people are allowed to disagree peacefully, better than a society where a slogan version of harmony is protected through state repression of dissent? Just like democracy can't be spread by force (see u.s. mid-east policy) harmony can't be achieved through coercion, throwing dissenters in jail and demonizing those who don't share your opinions. FREEDOM OF SPEECH (guaranteed in the constitution of the People's Republic of China) IS FOR PEOPLE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH, otherwise, it isn't freedom of speech but exactly the opposite.

bamboos

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:11:49 +0700

Leeli, i agree with you, some articles on this site are biased. but, considering they are expats, they just want to feel good of themselves. let them happy, and let them indulge in this self-happiness. this is one aspect of our harmony society. Meanwhile, i assume those expats who live in Shanghai not only read this website, also read Chinadaily/Shanghai Star, and watch Chinese TV news etc. So, let us assume they are righteous and still have the ability to make judgement. as we all know, most of expats in Shanghai are nice and quite reasonable, so maybe we had better not use those strong words here on argument. and, to remind you, always avoid to respond to Nanheyangrouchan, he is a very strange person here, need special care...

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:59:07 +0700

nanhey by the way, i don't really like talking and reading your posts ! They are very boring and nothing new !! Can you say something different, for god sake ! If you want to insult a country, make it an interesting posting for ppls to read ! I can almost fell asleep reading your post !!

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:49:20 +0700

nanhey about being banned shall i explain to you ? save it, dumb fuck like you will not understand ! you brain only contains materials of bashing china !

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:46:58 +0700

yeah..keepp watching your DVD !

WatchBagDVD

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:42:43 +0700

You're doing just fine on your own, champ.

nanheyangrouchuan

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:42:18 +0700

Another product of the moribund Chinese education system. The site takes a few seconds to load a comment and this little fenqing starts moaning about being "banned". China is a bad, dirty country that is molesting Africa as it criticizes the West for its past wrongs in that continent. Why ship a whole boat load of arms directly to Mugabe? Why is China selling bombers and tanks to the Khartoum regime? Those starving, dehydrated black Sudanese are a such a big threat to Chinese oil wells? Let the Japanese burn the Forbidden City!

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:38:23 +0700

watchdvd all day ! anything you want to say bad about China today ?? we are waiting....

WatchBagDVD

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:36:08 +0700

Yep... it's definitely you....

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:33:30 +0700

Why didn't the editor posting topic like the attached ? People out there need to understand what Hong Kong and China people want ! AGAIN ...This site is BIASED !! read the poll, man!!... http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=2&art_id=64632&sid=18554785&con_type=1&d_str=20080418&fc=8

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:31:12 +0700

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=2&art_id=64632&sid=18554785&con_type=1&d_str=20080418&fc=8

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:29:19 +0700

Why is this site kept on bashing China ??? What it is positing are clearly biased towards on sided !! Bashing CHINA !!!

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:27:16 +0700

what are you afraid ???

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:26:57 +0700

Why are you banning me from accessing this site ? Where the heck is the FREEDOM of Speech ?

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:25:39 +0700

From France24: "China has started a massive campaign of investment in mineral exploitation in Africa and is keeping blind about the humanitarian problems." Forign investment helps a country's economy and directly address the poverty problem. Dumb fool protesters Its all fucking bullshit just doing the "human rights" talks ! You need to address the basic needs ! you all dumb fuck !

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:18:42 +0700

the so called "human rights and shiet" supporter ! respect your believe ! We have the rights to have a successful and peaceful Olympic ! Can you respect our rights ?!

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:16:11 +0700

GET the FUCK out of here...Protestors !! Read the poll, respect the statistics !! it says...we don't want you here !! you are not fucking welcome !! understood !!

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:14:00 +0700

We are Chinese and you are not ! This is our country and not yours ! We want a successful Olympic ! Do you all protestor care about our FEELING ?!

LeeLi

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:11:55 +0700

LISTEN !!

WatchBagDVD

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:12:37 +0700

It's you.

paintingrainbowsblack

Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:20:30 +0700

The vast majority of HK residents in a recent survey are against using the Olympics to bash China. http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?we_cat=2&art_id=64632&sid=18554785&con_type=1&d_str=20080418&fc=8 Is it me or has this site become just another China bashing site?