Shanghaiist: Westboro Baptist Church to picket the Beijing Olympics against a "godless, filthy, sodomite China"

SteveBrandon

Mon, 11 Aug 2008 04:22:42 +0800

So, any sign of them in China? Or did WBC successfully troll the rest of the world once again by issuing a press release that they'd show up to protest somewhere outside the USA and then fail to actually show up as promised? I suspect that Beijing is a little outside their travel budget, and, even if they could afford to go, I kind of doubt that China would issue at least the better-known members of this group travel visas.

Vreeland

Sun, 18 May 2008 11:49:39 +0800

Westboro Baptist Church is a hate group. They hate gays and judge people. The Bible says not to judge, but these idiots from WBC do so anyway. They go to the funerals of soldiers and hold up stupid signs that say "Thank God for 9/11", and "God hates fags." WBC forgot that God so loved the world, that he sent his son here so that we can be forgiven for our sins. God loves us. God does not hate us. God loves America. God loves all countries. WBC says that there is no hope for us. God gives us hope. Westboro Baptist Church is the Devil's whore. I laugh at them. George Vreeland Hill

taihanasie

Sat, 10 May 2008 18:15:56 +0800

Richardlee, basically, what you say would have merit if most Chinese parents would accept surrogacy. A Chinese or Taiwanese family that would accept the modern concept of a surrogate mother without disdain would be rare indeed. You don't want to call it a stigma? Then call it what you want ;) A rose by any other name....

richardlee

Sat, 10 May 2008 02:57:04 +0800

@stinky mutton; I appreciate your thoughts. If you use it in a metaphorical sense, you are correct. But you are brownnosing CCP by saying its "love" surpasses all.

richardlee

Sat, 10 May 2008 02:41:17 +0800

let me answer your guys' questions to better understand Chinese culture. @Bumix yes. It was categorized as a "mental disease" by health ministry, until 10 years ago. it resulted from lack of knowledge of homosexual,not from discrimination. This is in sharp contrast with the West. @taihanasie the word "stigma" is not right here. it should be "pressure". Chinese culture attachs great importance to keeping family line, hence male offspring are more prefered. Those parents are not happy because they think they would not have someone to pass down the family line. But do a test. if you tell them you can find a surrogate mother, they will happily accept it. So it is not homosexuality that upset them. it is the deemed prospect they will not have grandchildren that upset them. so people don't "criticize" homosexuality. People criticize their children of not bringing grandchildren to them. they are different nature

McLustin

Fri, 09 May 2008 14:34:55 +0800

Are all the sodomites in Shanghai? I should plan a trip. All these province girls are too shy around foreigners.

taihanasie

Fri, 09 May 2008 13:32:29 +0800

"So you hardly see any homophobia in China, as you often see in the West." As someone who crosses the aisles in the sexuality department, and has many gay friends, many of whom are Chinese, I can confidently say that this statement is naive. You are right that Chinese culture does not attach the same stigma to homosexuality. There were even several gay emperors, a fact that some modern traditionalists do not like to mention because it counters the view that homosexuality is an import. But you can't deny that there is a huge stigma inside of families. Homosexuality is accepted as long as it is not within the family. There, criticism is just as strong as in Western countries. This is true even in more open places such as Hong Kong. Many gay Chinese men are living a lie with women simply because they feel socially bound.

concor1

Fri, 09 May 2008 12:55:59 +0800

Bumix r u for real? how do u get that idea? from the west media?

Bumix

Fri, 09 May 2008 08:19:51 +0800

"So you hardly see any homophobia in China" Isn't homosexuality officially considered a disease in China or something?

nanheyangrouchuan

Fri, 09 May 2008 07:04:30 +0800

"Actually China does have gods. But they are from Buddhism and Taoism.(we don't have trinity).These two religions are very tolerant and inclusive." Don't forget the CCP, whose power, vision and love surpasses all! And of course no religion exists in China without CCP approval and guidance.

richardlee

Fri, 09 May 2008 04:20:25 +0800

it's so funny! hahaha... Actually China does have gods. But they are from Buddhism and Taoism.(we don't have trinity).These two religions are very tolerant and inclusive. So you hardly see any homophobia in China, as you often see in the West. Christianity in the West is not monolithic. But some denominations are really promoting hatred, instead of love.Some denominations, to a less horrible degree, are promoting discrimination and justifying it. i know it is not pleasant to here it. But this is the very bad part of Western culture.

T

Thu, 08 May 2008 17:45:24 +0800

People's Armed Police http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People's_Armed_Police

James Creegan

Thu, 08 May 2008 17:00:08 +0800

T- I give em what they want

shangers

Thu, 08 May 2008 16:33:03 +0800

The only PAP I've heard of is the People's Action Party in Singapore (aka the government) - which has pretty similar views as Westboro on fags et al.

vladivostok

Thu, 08 May 2008 16:17:03 +0800

T: What's "PAP"?

Dan Washburn

Thu, 08 May 2008 16:07:34 +0800

The only question I have is who do we boycott against to retaliate? I'd start with Carrefour.

vladivostok

Thu, 08 May 2008 14:52:32 +0800

Probably had too much coke like Ted Haggard did.

Derek Sandhaus

Thu, 08 May 2008 14:49:17 +0800

Nice to know I'm not alone out here. How soon before they open up a Gates or Winsteads out in Gubei? The weird thing about Phelps is that he used to be a fairly well-respected civil rights attorney before he went off the deep end.

T

Thu, 08 May 2008 14:42:56 +0800

James - I think with your shoe oriented weblog, you're well on your way.

southoftheclouds

Thu, 08 May 2008 14:24:51 +0800

I'm also from Kansas, saw Fred Phelps and the WBC crew on multiple occasions in the late 90s. The only thing more disturbing than the hate that he was promoting was the fact that he was using his very young grandchildren to do it.

T

Thu, 08 May 2008 14:10:09 +0800

Oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, I hope the PAP picks up Rev. Phelps and plants him in some God-forsaken jail in the middle of Qinghai. If they violate his human rights, somehow, I won't care so much* *at all.

Derek Sandhaus

Thu, 08 May 2008 13:29:58 +0800

These guys (and the 'Intelligent' Design crowd, of course) really make me embarrassed to be from Kansas. I still cringe when I think about how they protested graduation at my school, because the school put on a play they didn't like. The only question I have is who do we boycott against to retaliate?

dedlam

Thu, 08 May 2008 13:14:44 +0800

Why don't they just set themselves on fire rather than picketing. It will bring them more attention. Thats how religious zealots do it in China!!!

James Creegan

Thu, 08 May 2008 13:01:28 +0800

how do I become a fag-enabler? It sounds like a worthwhile hobby

taihanasie

Thu, 08 May 2008 12:46:22 +0800

Not that any press releases by their church are worthy of analysing too deeply, but I would like to point out an interesting contradiction that I am surprised they did not pick up on: HL: "God hates China; and is punishing HER with a deadly storm" (emphasis is mine) Later on: "God hates fags", oh, and the lovely citation of Leviticus. But if China is a she, isn't it appropriate that she lie with mankind? And women are not fags, nor are they sodomites, unless one means that they come from Sodom, but are not partaking in the sodomy, since they can't. How odd.

nanheyangrouchuan

Thu, 08 May 2008 12:45:36 +0800

I just got one-upped.