Shanghaiist: Earthquake Updates: 32,477 dead, foreign rescue teams, lakes burst, three days of national mourning and suspension of Olympic torch relay

yu888

Mon, 19 May 2008 13:20:29 +0800

and oh yeah, thanks Shanghaiist for staying on top of things so we can find an easy source for a summary of events.

yu888

Mon, 19 May 2008 13:19:02 +0800

"Greater China is considered to be an objectionable term by two hotly opposed political camps, and some people do in fact find it offensive, in spite of your denials." Doesn't make it either right or wrong unfortunately. The fact is most people are middle of the road and couldn't give a flying leap. But more seriously, lets get back to the actual topic shall we? You have an issue with his terminology, so send him a letter to the editor and I am sure they can address it, but for now, I can be a chink and you can be an asshole but lets get back to the topic which supercedes any our our needs to be "right".

321

Mon, 19 May 2008 11:55:08 +0800

Greater China is considered to be an objectionable term by two hotly opposed political camps, and some people do in fact find it offensive, in spite of your denials. vadivostoKT, reread the wiki bit (carefully) and you will understand. I am sure there are some words that could be applied to you offensively but that others might find harmless. I am surprise that the readers here can't or won't grasp how anyone might rightfully be offended in spite of the clarification from wiki, but are more intent on shrilly protecting their position. All this discussion and snippy little remarks over something so simple and clear is indeed childish and tiresome. I look forward to your next 10 responses, but I've nothing further to add.

T

Mon, 19 May 2008 07:24:47 +0800

Greater China is a commonly accepted term that incorporates China/HK/Taiwan. End of. If its offensive, then you're far too easily offended. Use of it is certainly not ignorant. As for childish: pot. kettle. glass houses. stones.

sonyactivision

Mon, 19 May 2008 04:10:09 +0800

It's hard to imagine the extent of the damage. It will take months, maybe years to tally the full extent. The media always shows the collapsed buildings and the cracks in the dam, but that isn't a tenth of what's out there. This will be a huge, long-term recovery.Given the immensity of the task, China is really shining through.

Titro

Mon, 19 May 2008 03:28:11 +0800

As to the term "greater China", let's see how it was used in some occasions: "Greater China How leaders from the mainland, Hong Kong, and Taiwan are creating an integrated powerhouse" (BusinessWeek) http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/02_49/b3811007.htm "Greater China Careers" (P&G) http://pg.sitebase.net/global/greater_china/ "Definitions of region can vary — not just continents but trans-Atlantic, Greater China, trans-Indian Ocean, Eurasia — and Mr. Ghemawat examines a variety of regional hub strategies..." (New York Times) http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/02/business/02shelf.html?sq=greater%20china&st=nyt&adxnnl=1&scp=47&adxnnlx=1211137552-Bs+kRw78r7Wc21ol2KbBHg anyway, it's not the most important thing to discuss at this point.

Titro

Mon, 19 May 2008 02:57:09 +0800

I don't think Kenneth was trying to offend people at all, nor is he ignorant. Kenneth, thanks for compiling these news.

hotshotdebut

Sun, 18 May 2008 23:27:12 +0800

look, who's talking, again?

nanheyangrouchuan

Sun, 18 May 2008 22:45:20 +0800

Wikipedia is not a reliable source, Taiwan is Taiwan, HK is a victim and China is China.

quake08

Sun, 18 May 2008 22:43:27 +0800

Everybody please focus. And thanks for posting the list of urgent needed items. China Earthquake Relief http://chinaearthquake.wikidot.com/

vladivostok

Sun, 18 May 2008 21:20:34 +0800

321 obviously has major comprehension problems and I quote from the Wikipedia article:Some Taiwan independence supporters object to the term as it implies an economic and cultural connection that they do not wish emphasized.[1] Some supporters of Chinese reunification also object to the term as it implies that "Greater China" is different from China. Supporters of the One China concept would hold that all of Greater China is China.The Chinese are certainly NOT complaining of the use of the term. Lots of businesses operating within China as well as the media use this term. Does China kick them out? And whether YOU like it or not, this is a term that is widely used and will not disappear anytime soon. So just bugger off will ya?

321

Sun, 18 May 2008 21:11:33 +0800

@ T, vladivostok, & xiaopanzi This is so childish. If you will read on in the Wikipedia definition (read all the way to paragraph 3), you will read that both camps object to this politically charged term.

T

Sun, 18 May 2008 20:57:53 +0800

From wikipedia: Greater China (simplified Chinese: 大中华地区; traditional Chinese: 大中華地區; pinyin: Dà Zhōnghuá Dìqū) is a term referring collectively to both the territories administered by the People's Republic of China (including Hong Kong and Macau) and territories administered by the Republic of China (Taiwan and some neighbouring islands)[citation needed]. The term is most commonly used in the investment and economics community, referring to their growing economic interaction and integration Kenneth 1 - 321 - 0

Xiaopangzi

Sun, 18 May 2008 20:09:00 +0800

321 - What the hell is the matter with you? You don't think that YOU are offending people with a highly innapropriate comment like that at this time?

vladivostok

Sun, 18 May 2008 19:54:01 +0800

321: Actually why don't u just shut up if u have nuthin constructive to contribute to the conversation? i for one dont see anything wrong with that term.

321

Sun, 18 May 2008 19:43:23 +0800

Nice definition for Greater China, Kenneth. Were you just trying to offend people or are you just showing your ignorance.