Shanghaiist: Online lynch mobs find second post-quake target; Liaoning girl detained by the police

Titro

Sat, 31 May 2008 01:45:21 +0800

totally agree with sonyactivision. She shouldn't have been jailed. And no need to jail her at all! because this agony will just haunt her for a long long time, surely long enough for her to suffer from her stupid mistake. Whenever people meet her in the future, they'll just say: look, that's the ruthless crazy bitch. She got herself a tough future ahead of her, there's really no need to jail her. She set up one for herself already.

taihanasie

Wed, 28 May 2008 12:07:04 +0800

She should be able to say what she said without being physically harmed or detained by the police. However, she should also be aware that if she says what she says, some might want to physically harm her. These are two very simple expressions of two different phenomena. The first denotes a flaw in the Chinese state that should not exist, and one day may not. The second puts her lack of maturity in light. Basically, what we have here is your typical, self-centred youth who is out of touch with reality. Honestly, what she needs is a psychologist and emotional support, not a lynch mob.

sonyactivision

Sun, 25 May 2008 09:50:08 +0800

Even if nothing happens to her, this will follow her for the rest of her life. That is an agony that could have been avoided. Parents need to teach their young that what they say and do matters, even if they think they're too young.

booggerg

Sat, 24 May 2008 23:02:48 +0800

Her being detained by the authorities is probably a good thing for her. Have you read the reaction to her video? people are calling to have her found and killed and ppl saying that executing her would not be out of line here. Safer in a jail somewhere than to face the mob.

liliac

Sat, 24 May 2008 02:39:40 +0800

You are imposing your "right" "moral" or values whatever u want to call it, on her, "People should have the freedom to express themselves albeit with one caveat - that the expression is not pointless and lacking in any value ..." Yea, like I said she did it over the internet , know one is saying she was on our good side, it was wrong what she said, but we don't need big brother after her nor encouraging angry students to go after her head, its the internet! the mob went after her and the gov't supports it when its convenient because she doesn't say what they want her to say. besides she just a kid for crying out aloud, poor girl. btw never knew I was a "right activist" sounds like president's Bush "activist judges" for not abiding by certain people's sensitivity, values, and ideals ..oops!

booggerg

Sat, 24 May 2008 01:37:40 +0800

First of all, I'm getting annoyed by people's overuse of the the word "right". That is the most overrated word ever. "Rights" activists are using that world to an extend where we're all becoming desensitized to it. I also hate how rights activists are so contradictory in their gospel. Case in point: "You or I have no right to stop her yapping :)" No one is imposing their "right" to forcing something on anyone else here. I'm sure she's posting public apologies because she is afraid for her life. Or afraid of further harassment. It's simply a tug of war battle of instigator and the reactive public, a battle to see which side can impose their will on the other. In this case, the public wants her head so she cries for them hoping that would persuade them not to engage further. It is the cumulative effect of the mob pressure that is making them to come out with these public apologies. You think if 5 people replied negatively to her video, she would be crying and saying sorry?

liliac

Fri, 23 May 2008 23:40:56 +0800

"Booggeg", " Freedom of speech is not a broad brush that you can paint on everything." Perhaps there some validity in this, but I believe painting over anything you dislike is your right, buy it or take a photo of it and beat it! Thats all she did, such as the internet, private property, she didnt do in public ( China no way) of course there are repercussions, but your not going to be jailed for it those who disagree have no right to physically harm you. If I want to say, " I am sick of watchin Katrina victims on tv" you bet your horses I will get harass, but my mommy or the gov't can't make me say sorry to the public. Provoking makes the world more open, we don't live in a world of pink roses it has thorns too "the expression is not pointless and lacking in any value" thats your opinion, to her its valid. You or I have no right to stop her yapping :)

nanheyangrouchuan

Fri, 23 May 2008 14:23:47 +0800

This does not bode well for any voices of dissent when there would be the chance of conflict with a foreign nation/bloc of nations and woe be to anyone in China from those countries.

photoluc

Fri, 23 May 2008 10:34:04 +0800

Liliac, I am with you, she should be able to express herself, however stupid what she wants to say. Booggeg, I am with you, the netizens should also be able to express themselves, even if it is to harass her. But China, I am not with you - to detain her for that? On which ground? And Shanghaiist, you think you support that? People going to jail for saying stupid things? Freedom of speech! Not freedom to call for hate, negate the holocaust, or ask for the rebirth of the third Reich - that I want to be forbidden. But if we were to jail everybody who says something stupid or is selfish!

booggerg

Fri, 23 May 2008 06:00:37 +0800

liliac: What an unfortunate mindset you have. Freedom of speech is not a broad brush that you can paint on everything. People should have the freedom to express themselves albeit with one caveat - that the expression is not pointless and lacking in any value other than to satisfy the delirious person who expressed, especially if the expression was intended to provoke a "knee jerk" reaction from the public. On the same token, if she has full right to express herself in the fashion that she did(as you've put it) Then everyone else has the right to harass her for her comments. It's two way street. Freedom of speech people can't simply expect to say anything and everything without repercussion.

liliac

Fri, 23 May 2008 01:46:17 +0800

Granted I think its sick what she wrote, BUT she has every right to express her thoughts, in the West we have millions of people who write such nonsense about the holocaust, slavery in USA, 1994 northridge quake, Katrina, etc... what bothers me is that they hound her down because she doesn't want to be any part of this. And She doesn't have to apologize for anything! "Its better to be hated for what you are than to be loved for what your not" So be it. But China as a 5000 year old civilization and can't stand individualism in its full force, especially when you don't follow the herd...I prefer to live in society with haters who express what they want,plus you'll always have love on the other side :)

ricedaddy

Fri, 23 May 2008 01:25:57 +0800

I'd be pissed if I couldn't do anything for 3 days.

Fuzi

Fri, 23 May 2008 00:12:02 +0800

You'd think she was raised in the USA by a conservative Republican family or something. :-)

jd_in_bj

Thu, 22 May 2008 16:02:30 +0800

What I find even odder than the girl's rant (it's certainly in bad taste, but the kind of thing us old folks expect from uncouth, self-centered youth), is the online apologies from supposed family members. If she's an orphan, who are these people speaking up in her "defense" - and what motivates them?

EL JEFE

Thu, 22 May 2008 15:47:53 +0800

..and that's the story of the first caramel cod

James Creegan

Thu, 22 May 2008 14:30:22 +0800

OMGWTF that's like soooooooooo not- u know?