Shanghaiist: 312 HIV-positive travellers found through random blood checks at border crossings

nanheyangrouchuan

Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:36:54 +0800

@ leastman What? @ EL JEFE You are starting to sound like leastman

EL JEFE

Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:22:00 +0800

You don't even live in Shanghai and would be the only one in a hotel, with or without visa. Lol! What happened to the 600,000 line ripped-off paste job post? Go back to your talk radio and and stay in your bunker -- we will all be better off.

eastman

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:29:53 +0800

To nanheyangrouchuan --"eastman must be confused by my defense of China's entrance policy"? Attention is well paid to your "defense of China". But how can you forget you are just other face of my Janus? LOL!

nanheyangrouchuan

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:42:16 +0800

@ Dontblameme Apparently you weren't in Shanghai between 2000 to 2003. The Shanghai gov't did let out the kids with the slit achille's tendons and the horribly deformed and injured from the countryside. The foreigners balked and they ended up back in holding tanks. What an ignorant fuck. @ EL JEFE Who is the shut in? Climate change and resource depletion are major contributors to destabilization. Do you spend all of your time on Nanjing road at expat restaurants and hotel bars? Another ignorant fuck. Leastman must be confused by my defense of China's entrance policy.

EL JEFE

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:34:24 +0800

..."the climate is getting worse and the geopolitical scene more unstable"...only for alarmist shut-ins like you, buddy. Take a walk.

DontBlameMe

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:44:20 +0800

Somehow your comparison of those with HIV and homeless people who break the law by begging and harassing others, doesnt sit well.

nanheyangrouchuan

Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:28:47 +0800

In the case of incurable, communicable diseases, countries are right to refuse entry. It would be deplorable if either China or the US were deporting citizens with AIDS, but as the climate gets worse and the geopolitical scene more unstable, expect bans on immigrants and visitors with nasty diseases to get broader in scope. To hear the expats complain about this particular policy reminds me of the situation in Shanghai when the foreigners complained about beggars being jailed and sent out of the city so the PSB let them out. The foreigners got tired of being harassed for money and looking at deformed and dirty peasants so they asked the PSB to lock up the beggars.

DontBlameMe

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 23:41:02 +0800

OMG, like getting into China wasnt difficult enough? I was expecting an examination of my DNA or promising my first born (if its a boy, of course) in order to attend the Olympics.

NannyState

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:52:34 +0800

The USA more repressive than China? What a shocker.

Fuzi

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 21:31:14 +0800

BBC1: yes, the USA still denies entry to anyone with HIV. Once the new Chinese rule goes into effect, that will leave the USA as the only major country with such an anachronistic policy. There have been attempts to rescind the US law, even recently, but such attempts will have to wait until after the upcoming elections to have any chance of passing (assuming there will be less Republican legislators to thwart progressive legislation).

biyansong

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:43:31 +0800

"Xia said such checks were usually conducted among high-risk groups, or those who appeared to have the symptoms. She would not elaborate." So that's not a representative sample.... Any difference in the percentage of people testing positive, or anything like that, could just be due to different standards over who they tested this year. Using a sample like this, instead of just testing anyone, may have been a little bit more ethical...but as far as getting good diachronic statistics are concerned it sounds pretty useless!

BBC1

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:09:33 +0800

Don't the US refuse visas and entry to HIV positive people? Is the rule still in force? I remember travel guides telling people not to say they are HIV positive in he US arrival forms.

EL JEFE

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:50:25 +0800

It's really just the same guy getting caught 312 times, with or without visa, LOL!

bk gunner

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:10:18 +0800

Positive tests were only up 19% y-o-y, but tests went from 65,900 to 756,000? Methinks they added a zero, especially with the "The increase in positive cases was mainly due to the growth in the number of people who underwent the checks" statement.

taihanasie

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:30:11 +0800

That is disgusting and shocking treatment from a hospital especially! Sadly enough, I believe it.

Pirx

Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:37:04 +0800

Shocking number, indeed. I think this might refer to southern China, road/rail crossings into Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam. The visual selection, I guess, might be traces of injections on arms, legs, hands, between fingers, toes, etc. When the son of one of my Chinese colleagues in Shanghai tested positive for HIV last month, he was thrown out of the hospital immediately.