Shanghaiist: Chinese men set their eyes on Western women

Buck Rogerz

Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:19:10 +0700

I totally agree, Bumix. Admin needs to block Dreamtheatre and save a copy of his comments, as well his IP address. You should also file these records with the PSB just to be sure.

Bumix

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:10:06 +0700

How about some admin intervention at this point? Threatening another user to find out her whereabouts and 'make her pay' is definitely a step over the line!

EL JEFE

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:46:08 +0700

Sounds like a waste of time. Can't you just forget about it? I don't know if it's worth it.

Dreamtheatre

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:53:36 +0700

Joishie, If she just insulted me, I would probably just insult her back. But she insulted the entire nation, I'm not here to threaten her, I'm here for real action. I'm going to ask every expat who might know who she is and I'll make her pay. I'll even ask for help from my hacker friends to dig her out from the internet. As I said before, when it's due, it's due. Time to make the locals realize that those foreign trashes worth no respect whatsoever.

joishie

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:45:00 +0700

Wow. It's interesting to see how quickly this turned into a rallying cry to eliminate "foreign trashes". Brilliant. I'm sure this will accomplish much on an expat oriented website. Also, "to make her pay?"...how good of you to threaten someone for expressing their own opinion, even though it insults you.

Dreamtheatre

Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:07:18 +0700

Thanks eastman. Now I know she is just a whore. Damn those migrant workers, no manners whatsoever.

booggerg

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:19:04 +0700

just to clarify.. the term banana is in the context of something yellow on the outside but white on the inside, not the shape of the fruit and its functions.

eastman

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:37:08 +0700

To dreamtheatre --"if anyone can tell me who the TheGoddessT is and I'll make sure she pays'? Find her is so easy since internet is a funny thing. But I think the best way "to make her pay" is that you'll pay her instead. Don't forget the condom, lol!

Dreamtheatre

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:24:25 +0700

Those foreign trashes come to our land and take advantage of all the benefits that China has offered, yet in their eyes we are dirty, low hygiene, bad taste and rude. We don't get any respect no matter how much we respect them living in our land. When it's due, it's due. Let's deal this one at a time, I'll much appreciate it if anyone can tell me who the TheGoddessT is and where she usually hang out. I'll make sure she pays.

eastman

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:15:40 +0700

To Burmix, Glad you still remember me as "nice, tolerant, civilized and full of love". So keep yourself better lubed and 24x365 ready for next time. lol!

Lel0

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:02:45 +0700

Asian girls are desperate for anything. I pity white guys that date Panda b*tches.

cebollo

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 08:23:57 +0700

this is the funniest thing ive ever read but... tits or GTFO

DontBlameMe

Wed, 10 Sep 2008 05:07:54 +0700

Removing "foreign trashes" seems to be a recurring theme in Shanghai. I thought the communists did that way back when. Dreamtheatre dont be so offended. I find chinese men attractive as well, but they tend to be more of a "fixer-upper" group.

Dreamtheatre

Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:12:32 +0700

Just wondering how many skinheads in China. We need to get together. Time to clean up those foreign trashes living in China.

Dreamtheatre

Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:56:00 +0700

To TheGoddessT, Please get the f*** out of China. You are not welcome in China.

Bumix

Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:19:47 +0700

Not even eastman? He is nice, tolerant, civilized and full of love! No wait..

TheGoddessT

Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:20:36 +0700

ok, speaking as a foreign woman living in China. I wouldn't be caught dead dating a Chinese guy. Now it's not that i'm racist, I am with an Asian man, but, as the topic has come up over and over again. The problem is with Chinese men, they are dirty, low hygiene, bad taste, rude, corse, etc. and i'm not just simply saying this, but it's only in China you will see a man hit a woman in public, push her in to moving trafic, throw her out of the car on an expressway. (things i've seen in person) so the question is, is it wrong for Chinese women to go for someone who'll treat her better?

DontBlameMe

Tue, 09 Sep 2008 04:52:40 +0700

Oh crap. Is this why guys and girls all over wanted a picture with me, the tall, buzz cut, white guy? Are they telling their friends and family they did me?? Eh, I guess its ok. : ) Btw, if you all could lighten up on the whole controlling political system-thing, you'd have more foreigners to hit on. Isnt that reason enough??

snowisred

Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:43:42 +0700

I agree, what this guy is doing is very insulting not only to himself, but to Chinese males, Chinese women, and foreign women too. I can't believe that such people exist.

snowisred

Tue, 09 Sep 2008 02:42:22 +0700

This guy is so narrow minded, he thinks sleeping around with foreign women will earn him prestige, I doubt it. If he pays more respect to Chinese women, care about them, be nice to them , then I believe he can pick up a much more beautiful Chinese girl than the foreign woman in the picture. This is the 21st century now, Chinese women think differently too, if they are not treated with respect, love and care they will look for other people. Be open minded and think deeply.

yueyue

Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:15:57 +0700

I've commented on your lj post and I can't help but comment here as well interesting article..and this is insulting for a western woman, even some comments are insulting -.-; do they really think we are all whores and are that easy?...only because I am blond and tall doesn't mean I'll go whore myself like paris hilton -.-

EL JEFE

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:59:06 +0700

If he's this bored, he should try it backhand to mix things up.

Buck Rogerz

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:13:16 +0700

"...it, but it doesn't sound too unfamiliar to the Western man who gets the exotic Asian girl, no? We are not so different from each other." It seems that his motivations are bit different. He seems not to be pursuing western women so much out of a sense of fun and mutual gratification as out of embittered nationalist and ethnic sentiments. You've even acknowledged that he is out to "settle a score," which I think is essentially perverse.

dotdotdot

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 14:58:57 +0700

>> Puhlease... From your post, I can deduce that you are an idiot to make an assumption of an entire race from one man's post. China, with its 98% Han heritage, doesn't have a lot of Westerners running around middle-of-nowhere towns. Could be one reason why Mr Cassanova sees the idea of sleeping with non-Chinese women so novel, and sees it as something exotic, and scoreworthy. Not that I agree with it, but it doesn't sound too unfamiliar to the Western man who gets the exotic Asian girl, no? We are not so different from each other. And Thalia... YOU might not sleep with random Chinese/foreign guy that you meet on the street, but some may, and there's nothing wrong with that, if both are consenting. No need to get on your high horse. And just because this one guy did (or claims to have done), certainly no need to think that every Chinese guy who approaches you from here on out is there because they want to settle a score.

puhlease

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:41:44 +0700

From this article I can deduce that Chinese men are childish, insecure, unwashed, racist and sexist. This "us and them" attitude is pathetic and as though people are only permitted to sleep with someone of the same race. How boring and fascist is that? And the notion that Chinese women are commodities that can be owned or controlled highlights just how ugly some people are. No wonder white women are not interested in Chinese men!

Shanghai Pete

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 09:03:02 +0700

Don't know what's wrong with this guy, I always use my Crocs to pick up women, never fails.

eastman

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:48:10 +0700

To nanheyangrouchuan --"Bad, dirty, self deceiving China". If you ever dare to stop badmouthing China like this, I'll change my mind and not to adopt you fatherless idiot.

eastman

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:44:04 +0700

When poster like Vera dreamt on "Chinese will be poorer forever", he failed to know China has more middle-class based on PPP index (purchasing power parity) than USA now and they didn't appear over night. When west was busy making war and enjoyed blue sky resulted from minus GDP in last decade, CHinese is hard-working. Vera is also too idiotic to understand he is "wealthy" only in CHina with his poor income, while at home a normal dinner in restaurant will cost him a sleepless night. Maybe that is the very reason why he is "unwillingly" living under "brutal commie rule and killing smog", pretending to be somebody and telling how much he hates to exile here and how much he miss the luxury "green green grass of home", an expat's survivor complex we can daily see in Shanghai. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/opinion/27friedman.html?hp

YangBang

Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:14:46 +0700

The funniest part is that he actually thinks Western men care if Chinese men sleep with Western women. I think you'd call that "projecting your own pathetic insecurities on to others."

BOSOX

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:38:36 +0700

The picture looks fake to me. It looks like her arm went behind his arm, but didn't come out on the other side.

nanheyangrouchuan

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:54:10 +0700

"Sexual imperialism is a western thing, it's what they do to poorer countries" So the luring of SE Asian women into China for forced marriage or the numerous Russian and SE and central Asian women in Chinese KTVs is not sexual imperialism? Bad, dirty, self deceiving China.

Chinkerfly

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 10:49:09 +0700

@Open I (Thalia) was half amused and half annoyed by the audacity of that one particular Chinese man bragging about hooking up with a foreigner. I was mildly offended, but not particularly angry. I AM angry that "child molestering" and prostitution exist, but that knows no race. Maybe a little bit of friendly competition is good though. I can see a future where Chinese men exchange tips and tricks with Western ones (guys who have a wealth of material available to them about "how to please a woman"). I could see that as a very positive development for Chinese women. I feel like the more enlightened among Western men know that sex is less about themselves and more about leaving their partner satisfied. Has that attitude spread over in China yet? As for the picture. It's the one that the original guy put up with his post. I agree, they could very well be a couple completely unrelated to this story, he looks like a pretty stand-up guy to me. Maybe even a college student. I suggest you take it up with the 楼主 at Mop.

vera

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 09:53:43 +0700

"China may surpass the wealth of most foreign countries I doubt the inferiority complex of these delusional foreigners going in to mess with the local women is going to work very well." 1) I think most people agree it's about more than wealth. 2) Even if it were about wealth, China will be poorer on a per capita basis -- possibly forever. 3) It hasn't changed in Japan. 4) I don't think you understand what "inferiority complex" means. 5) I do sympathise with Chinese men on this one.

waixingren

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:42:27 +0700

This guy's ambition is no different than a hick in a western country going to the big city to try to hook-up with a model. And as fish-stories go, he'll make it sound like its really easy to find really hot women... but we all know he's going to get shot down countless times before he figures out what he's doing wrong. By then though, maybe he'll have learned and maybe... just maybe... he'll actually attain his goal. Hey, I'm kinda rootin' for him. He's a cocky SOB now, but refinement awaits. He might end up turning into a lady killer, western or otherwise.

Open

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:31:15 +0700

China may surpass the wealth of most foreign countries I doubt the inferiority complex of these delusional foreigners going in to mess with the local women is going to work very well. I just think is so ironic that when an asian man touches a non-asian girl in western country it's called yellow peril and they start making asian men/women stereotypes like Asian men are unmanly or asian women the perfect sex object. It's damn racist. The double standards of the west where a white male with asian female is more common and acceptable due to hidden racist agendas.

Open

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 07:23:09 +0700

That's not what all Chinese men think! I think Thalia is just angry at a lot of the foreign men going to Asia to exploit the vulnerabilities e.g. Child molestering, prostitution or some sexual imperialism/fetish. And where did Thalia get that picture of the poor innocent couple for this rant-article? Sexual imperialism is a western thing, it's what they do to poorer countries. I hate these types of people, I hope they get conned & robbed by thugs.

jess22

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:05:58 +0700

@ Chinkerfly It's like what you mentioned, both positive and negative but for the most part is much more positive. The two major things that entice Chinese people about the West is the education and the wealth. And having a foreign passport automatically gets you some bonus points. So Chinese Americans have it pretty good in China. Since most of us are wealthier than the locals, we're sorta validate their beliefs. However there's also a backlash on this as many Chinese Americans project an image that they're "better" than the locals simply because they have a Western education and background. *** I'll put it this way, and it's most evident with Chinese American men. If a local guy (in Shanghai) wants to get married he'll have need a very high paying job, own a car, a house, and other material possessions. However, a Chinese American can have much less than that and he'll still qualify simply because of his foreign passport and the "perception" of "better future returns" because of it. *** Also please realize I'm not saying that all Chinese people are like this. I'm sure there is a huge selection bias since the Chinese who like to hang around expats, Chinese Americans, foreigners, etc. are often a certain type.

Chinkerfly

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 03:03:29 +0700

@jess22 How do you feel Chinese Americans are perceived in China? Sounds like you've had some negative experiences. Reverse discrimination? The way I have been treated as a Chinese American in China has been all over the place (positive and negative), so I would have a hard time pinpointing any one over-arching perception.

jess22

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:55:39 +0700

@ nanheyangrouchuan If it really was about "perceived" masculinity then why aren't more Chinese women bypassing white boys to date black men? It's about the money and a type of colonial mentality that everything from the "West" is better. And this is very evident by how Chinese Americans are perceived in China.

nanheyangrouchuan

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:41:54 +0700

One can never underestimate the power of the "Playboy" brand, especially when you go head to toe in it. But obviously the guy in this picture is not "in" since he can't even get his hands around the girl's waste. No doubt every girl that slightly resembles the one in this pic is being hounded by scruffy, scrawny youths with bad/no haircuts and questionable hygiene and bad manners. I guess the honeymoon between the expat and Chinese communities is really over. Oh, funny that the "banana" comment comes out from some sexually frustrated bastards. Anyone can be western, no one wants to be Chinese.

Chinkerfly

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:01:11 +0700

@booggerg It is ironic, but depends on how you look at it. The original Chinese post offended me on so many levels. As a woman, as a Chinese woman, as a foreigner, as a foreign woman. I think if you really consider it for a moment, it's actually quite fitting. And yeah @moneyinabox I actually did not want to post the picture at first either, but since I referenced it, it was either provide the picture or force people to click through to the original article to see it. Six of one.

booggerg

Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:47:31 +0700

you'd think a white person wrote this article but ironically it's not.. bannanas anyone? LOL

moneyinabox

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:56:12 +0700

"We feel sorry for the girl whose picture is being paraded over the Chinese web in association with this article." Yet you chose to repost it here. How hypocritical and shitty of you.

Chinkerfly

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:03:23 +0700

@ShanghaiLife hahaha, I'd like to think I'm not that easy, but I suppose with the proper incentive. :) But yeah, typically I don't bed complete strangers. That could be dangerous on more than one level. I had a friend who took a girl home one time who he'd just met, and she pulled a knife on him after they had sex. She was about a centimeter short of puncturing his lung. Now, I know that's a very extreme case, but I can't help feeling that girls going home with complete strangers is an invitation for trouble. Right up there with taking candy from strangers, getting into a stranger's car, opening the door for strangers... you get the picture. Call me conservative. :)

ShanghaiLife

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 18:05:36 +0700

>(b) Western women are easy enough to sleep with a random Chinese guy after meeting them on the streets in China Thalia, is sleeping with someone you met in the street considered wrong in your belief system? You might want to brighten up and live a bit more. Ok, back to screwing the last few Chinese virgins now.

caliagent55

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 16:38:45 +0700

I'm sure the person who wrote this article is just not very good with women. There are lots of Chinese guys who have their act together and get plenty of play. It doesn't matter whether you are a laowai or local, girls want a guy who treats them well, respects them, and is interesting to be around.

eastman

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:40:32 +0700

To Vera --“people like you who just degrade the site and drive away better people”? Listen to you boy: “idiotic”, “dirty bitches”,"little turds”... Do you think you are qualified as better with a mouth like that? While knowing all the cute words, you even dont know a decent curse. Pity your mom only gave you a hole big enough to suck but not smart enough to bash, which she must’ve wiped clean with a used diaper you were in. You see, smarter one curse differently. LOL(again)!

nanheyangrouchuan

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:22:50 +0700

@ stoli Chinese guys continue to delude themselves about Chinese girls, western men and money, it has much more to do with masculinity (perceived or otherwise) as well as grooming and how the girls are treated (that has been told to me by Chinese girls). And even if the perception of beauty is different, in a country where the boy/girl ratio is almost 3:1, local guys need to get their acts together in a big hurry. BTW, I've met western girls (including latinas) who married Chinese guys and the overall experience was pretty bad.

tenforty

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 14:40:36 +0700

"This Chinese man goes on to advise all his friends and the readers of Mop, that if you are going to screw a woman, make sure it is a foreign woman, because the sex is great" This was the part that really made me laugh though.

stoli

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:33:47 +0700

or D) that there's a score to settle to begin with it's simple economics. Many Chinese girls perceive western guys to have dough. And in many cases even with English teachers they're right. If you're making 1000 kuai a month or whatever, but you know you can hook a Western guy who makes 10 times that amount, and treat you decently, why not?

fakewaiguoren

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:34:49 +0700

the person who wrote this should go to hell.

fakewaiguoren

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:04:40 +0700

你们外国人在中国讨饭吃，还他妈的说中国这不好那不好。干嘛不趁早滚回去。洋大比在中国没人喜欢，只有你们那帮浑身是毛还没有进化好的卵卵拖到地上的雄性才喜欢F U C K。写这篇东西的人，从头到尾就是一个一个活脱脱白眼狼。我祝你生儿子没屁眼，生女儿被人奸。

vera

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:35:13 +0700

@ eastman and lobard why do you need to idiotically punctuate your every idiotic comment with "LOL?" Are you like a lot of insecure teenage girls who laugh after everything they say?. Wait. Don't answer that. Your insecurity is obvious as well as you inferiority complex with respect to foreigners. You are a lot of dirty, little simpering bitches. I realize that you little turds have no other life outside of leaving inane comments on this site (where no one likes you), but please find a new hobby. Otherwise, Shanghaiist should smarten-up and block people like you who just degrade the site and drive away better people.

eastman

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 09:02:16 +0700

This small towner, like midwest rednecks, is sure quite silly. Not to mention the "virgins" stuff that most city boys would run away from, he could've well spent his money, instead of for Puma, for a west whore everywhere all year in Beijing and bang the shit out of her, cheaply and easily and proudly. As to the "westerners-with-Chinese-girls" thing, guess what most of my Chinese friends say? --They have no problem with their ugliest population digested by laowai. Go to Sasha, you'll see a little truth in it. lol!

nanheyangrouchuan

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:50:52 +0700

Yeah.... I doubt he scored anything more than a hug and his own hands later that night just based on his looks. Chinese girls lean towards foreign men based on other things like hygiene, percieved masculinity and mannerism (foreign men are new and different). Asian men have no less of a chance with the right looks, attitude, hygiene and having an actual build. Scrawny fen qing and sloppy little emporers have no chance.

larboard

Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:41:24 +0700

If you want to have a relationship with a foreign woman, its no big deal, just go to a foreign country where you can screw your heart out, just like the foreigners who come to China to bang the shit out of the Chinese women. Don't get mad, get even. LOL.