Shanghaiist: Chinese grad student murdered at Virginia Tech

andrewa

Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:59:24 +0800

I think we are still missing the point, why are Asian students going psycho at Virginia Tech? How many more times can this occur and reinforce the pattern before somebody gets pro-active about it?

helen

Tue, 03 Feb 2009 15:16:39 +0800

www.workingmannews.com WE HAVE COMPLETE COVERAGE! we even link his qzone blogs! we are americans and both my husband and i have intervened in serious confrontations. american men are not usually afraid of breaking up fights especially southern men. what we can't understand is why au bon pain didn't have security! there seems to be a news blackout. where are the 911 tapes? where is the autopsy report? where is the security surveilance tape? here in california if you buy a cup of coffee you are video taped in 10 different angles. please stop by our website!

nanheyangrouchuan

Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:29:54 +0800

Yeah, hopefully he looked into her eyes after her head hit the ground. I've heard that if you do that you are mentally screwed for life.

Bumix

Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:58:55 +0800

I worked as an EMT for 2 years, saving people's lives on a daily basis. It's all very exciting in the beginning, but the first thing your colleagues tell you is to not try to be a hero, because it makes you do stupid things, probably endanger yourself and those around you. For every hero story there's another one where somebody stupid got himself killed.

shinpath

Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:01:54 +0800

Ok, I admit to being mildly obsessed with this story. It's obviously a lover's quarrel, she wanted to leave and date white guys, who knows?, just not HIM anymore and he couldn't take it, so at their last meeting at the cafe he has a sharpened piece of cutlery. If the knife is really sharp he could shove her head under his arm and before anyone could realized it he could have been done in 45 seconds. But what bothers me is that they were BOTH phd candidates, all that education, and the fact he would do it THERE and be unrepentant about it. And on the same night as that Belgian daycare murder by a Heath Ledger Joker look-alike. Imagine, you're sitting there, talking to this soon to be ex-boyfiend, he's still cute, but you want to play the field in America, especially with that new T.A. you just met in your accounting class, and the next moment... They say, as far back as the Fr. Revolution, a head might live for a minute without it's body... O.K. I'll stop now, this is getting ... unhealthy.

aliix

Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:50:07 +0800

I didn't actually see anywhere that said no one intervened.... They may have intervened too late. If there was no argument, no one would even know they had to react until blood was drawn and she would have been dead within a few seconds. It's pretty asinine to pretend like you know what happened and try to speak about the students there.

eastman

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 09:06:17 +0800

yb girl, --"as soon as I just read the headline, I knew it was another chinese"? but i was little bit different. as soon as i just read the heading, i was sure the suspect must'v used a rambo knife to make himself more outstanding than a yank in a gangland which enjoys such a highest crime rate that a kitch knife cutting off an ear would not make a story.

bopomofo

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 08:47:43 +0800

What is it about Virginia Tech that makes Asians go postal there? Must be the crappy Chinese food at the cafeteria. I guess that's one school where you won't find racist bullying of the Asians any time soon. Scenario A: White dude to Asian dude: Yo, you got something in your eye... Asian dude: WTF! Are you making fun of my eyes??? White dude: Nah man...I was just trying to tell ya got.. Asian dude: Muddafu...! Where's my Glock?...

billywags

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 03:15:01 +0800

It's easy to say after-the-fact how someone should have reacted. I can see the oddness and shock of the situation making people hesitate or even fail to realize what was going on until it was over.

Pete Chorba

Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:59:53 +0800

According to the reports, the attack happened so quickly, none of the other patrons in the restaurant could stop the attack.

puhlease

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 19:25:20 +0800

@yb "Funniest thing is, as soon as I just read the headline, I knew it was another chinese." Puhlease ... that's as naive as saying "Funniest thing is, as soon as I just read the deadline, I knew it happened in America."

InactionHero

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:59:23 +0800

Ok, Jimmy Page, I understand your 18-22 point of view. Still, we might not expect it, but there are lots of young people who do heroic things. What's more, in stating that if someone had stepped in and and saved the girl's life, you would have "called it an act of sheer heroism," implies that you hold doing something to intervene as plausible. It might take some serious balls, but often in crisis situations, people 'just act.' Lastly, before 'mocking' me, please read the posts for what they actually say. "To act is certainly one’s choice. In this situation, no one would ever be condemned for not acting." I'm not criticizing or judging, I'm wondering why 'no one', according to the reports, did anything? It's a genuine, albeit frustrating, point of curiosity, not condemnation. There's a lot of bad ways to go out in life, but having your head cut off--in coffee shop or in front of a video camera (Daniel Pearl)--has to be right up there.

vladivostok

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 18:41:37 +0800

Thought of the Day: What would InactionHero do? Would he have been the Inaction Hero or the In Action Hero?

Jimmy Page

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 17:05:41 +0800

But most importantly - This IS some sad, scary shit

Jimmy Page

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:44:24 +0800

I though LCLT was being direspectful, that's why I called him a dick. I mocked you because I thought your comment was ridiculous. How can you criticize 18-22 year old kids for NOT stopping a particularly savage and disturbing murder from taking place? If somebody had stepped in and saved the girls life, I would have called it an act of sheer heroism - but I think it sucks to judge those present for not taking on an armed lunatic with coffee cups and butter knives. I wasn't trying to be particularly insightful, I hope you weren't.

James Creegan

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:29:17 +0800

Decapitated. In public.

InactionHero

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:20:50 +0800

Nice, Jimmy Page, you chastise LoveChinaLongTime to “don't be such a dick,” only to be a dick yourself, which is the blog commenter avenue of choice when bereft of anything insightful to contribute to a topic.

InactionHero

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:08:42 +0800

To act is certainly one’s choice. In this situation, no one would ever be condemned for not acting. I’m just genuinely surprised that no one did, given we Americans’ propensity for “being heroes and everything.” And Bumix’s assertion that, “After the first cut it's probably too late to help any way”…well, that simply speaks to another point of view of courageously intervening to save a life.

Jimmy Page

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:39:44 +0800

If only InactionHero had been there... dousing the assailants groin with hot coffee or forcing a Snickers bar up his ass

LoveChinaLongTime

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:38:13 +0800

Witnesses were probably Chinese liu xue sheng...

yb

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:26:01 +0800

What's up with chinese decapitating people in north america? First that dude on the bus in Canada, and now this ! Funniest thing is, as soon as I just read the headline, I knew it was another chinese. I don't know what's up, but there's obviously more than meets the eye.

Bumix

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:17:15 +0800

I know you are all about being heroes and everything, but these are people sitting in a cafe when suddenly someone next to them just cuts another persons fucking head off!! Can you imagine the amount of blood that produces? After the first cut it's probably too late to help any way..

InactionHero

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:15:26 +0800

Geez, I mean completely "subjective".

InactionHero

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:10:13 +0800

This is some sad, scary shit. Not to be all "cowboy-up," but if reports are true, I find it difficult to believe none of the 7 witnesses attempted to intervene in any way ("Chief Flinchum told reporters that to the best of his knowledge, no one intervened during the attack, and there were approximately seven witnesses"). Sure, in a moment, what their witnessing is shocking and wildly dangerous--but more than not, this is the kind of shock that compels people to act as apposed to standing frozen in fear. A knife wielding maniac is fair game for just about any type of bystander action, doled out with impunity: chair over the head, pelting with coffee mugs, dousing with hot coffee, butter knife in the kidney. To witness this was surely unbearable, but to witness it and know you did absolutely nothing--whether justified or not--would be equally unbearable, and something you'd have to hauntingly live with. Of course, what I'm saying is completely objective (based on my American social construct), but we've all bore witness in one form or another to life threatening incidences where bystanders 'acted' and saved lives--occasionally, even at the cost of their own life. Anyway, this story is a total bummer.

Bumix

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:08:17 +0800

Wow, how do you in 13 days piss someone off so much that he cuts off your head with a kitchen knife during a chat in a cafe?

Jimmy Page

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:47:29 +0800

Don't be such a dick

LoveChinaLongTime

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:19:22 +0800

Please...let's not lose our heads over this incident. I'm sure the accused merely blew his stack and got a bit nationalistic when the victim urged calmer heads prevail about the Tibet issue.

dqma

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:06:19 +0800

Zhu Haiyang graduated from Shanghai Ocean University. Here is an article about his academic success on the student newspaper http://www.shfu.edu.cn/news/news_detail.asp?ID=4811 http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://www.shfu.edu.cn/news/news_detail.asp%3FID%3D4811&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=6&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25E6%259C%25B1%25E6%25B5%25B7%25E6%25B4%258B%25E5%2590%258C%25E5%25AD%25A6%25E7%25AE%2580%25E4%25BB%258B%2B%25E6%259C%25B1%25E6%25B5%25B7%25E6%25B4%258B%25E5%2590%258C%25E5%25AD%25A6%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DcNF Here is his blog on QQ http://8196344.qzone.qq.com/ Another blog on that's metro. http://home.thatsmetro.com/104

nanheyangrouchuan

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:37:03 +0800

He must have been pretty quick with that knife, and big knife at that. If there wasn't a fight, he probably had the attack planned.

Pete Chorba

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:15:39 +0800

Yes, that is correct.

James Creegan

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:13:05 +0800

Decapitated? In public?