Shanghaiist: Today's Links: Nobody listens to China on Tibet, Nobody listens to Chen Shuibian when he screams innocent (anymore), and (allegedly) no one listens to anyone in Beijing

nanheyangrouchuan

Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:00:13 +0700

That's very Leastman-esque of you Less.

Les Izmore

Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:56:44 +0700

Yeah nanhay, we know where that band aid will go and it will be the smallest one they sell...

eastman

Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:07:34 +0700

---"She likes being thumped"? i wish that your girl friend still had more on her bony chest than your mom for you to trump and that I had wasted you on the wall against your mom's will when you were still liquid some 16 years ago. now it's the consequence: an idiot with iq as low as your beloved bush.

nanheyangrouchuan

Mon, 30 Mar 2009 07:12:45 +0700

Wow Less, is that the best your massive liberal arts mind can conjure? Ouch, I'm going to put on a band aid now.

Les Izmore

Mon, 30 Mar 2009 02:44:58 +0700

Well, consider the opponent (see comment below...)

nanheyangrouchuan

Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:38:41 +0700

@ leastman She likes being thumped. And so does your mom.

yu888

Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:46:02 +0700

geezeastman, myy 2 year old can come up a with a better and more mature response that that.

eastman

Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:02:05 +0700

--China "only thumps it chest"? different of you is, when you asked what you want, you thumps your girl friend' chest.

nanheyangrouchuan

Sun, 29 Mar 2009 06:53:00 +0700

People have stopped listening because China discusses nothing and concedes nothing. It only thumps it chest, shows off puny muscles and makes alot of noise about what it wants and when it wants it.

taihanasie

Sat, 28 Mar 2009 10:44:22 +0700

Eastman, you seem to be confused about the content of the article in question. The article about the Chinese government's message on Tibet refers to the message the international public gets from the media and the willingness of international media to pick up China's message. Lack of recognition of the Tibetan government in exile arises mostly out of diplomatic pressure and political practicalities. Such pressure is brought to bear on members of a class of political decision-makers who are not part of the general public that the mass-printed stories within the article in question are targeting. Therefore, if you want to say, "when China talks, people listen," that is fine, and true in many contexts. But you really have to be more specific about what the listening forum in question is. When Chinese representatives talks at such and such international conference, conference participants listen. That's what they're there for. When the Chinese ambassador calls a US Congressman and discusses such and such problem, the Congressmen may listen (although he might disagree with the message). When Chinese papers print long-winded articles that celebrate the government's occupation of Tibet, the average international reader will quite possibly not listen unless he is interested in the subject. He doesn't have to listen, so it takes an innovative approach to get the message across, especially when that message is unpopular. I think the article makes this point quite well.

eastman

Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:55:36 +0700

As to "financial meltdown in China", the writer of "China’s Team of Rivals" he even failed to see 3 Chinese banks are not only the 3 biggest banks in the world now, but also the only 3 banks with profit, a unimaginable pofit of over 30% in 2008. that's the very reason why i suggested our rich expats to buy their stocks instead of getting interest since there is absolutely no financial crisis in china at all. but while considering writer's quote of 65% nosedive of china's stock market, it's easy to see his story was written 5 month ago, well, when citibank still valued 100 times more.

eastman

Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:33:19 +0700

--"Nobody listens to China"? no governement recognize dharamsala , all country with deplomatic ties with china recognize tibet as part of china and daliar himself doesnt want to seek independent. all that proves when china talks, people do listen.