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- Why China might turn on North Korea [CSMonitor] "China has long seen its national interests served by the status quo on the Korean Peninsula. According to a cold-war perspective about strategic balance and a post-cold-war emphasis on internal development, Beijing prioritized maintaining a buffer state and preventing North Korea's problems from spilling over China's border. While Beijing retains these priorities, the chances of it getting tough with Pyongyang are low. However, the China of today is not the China that came to Pyongyang's aid during the Korean War - its national identity has evolved over decades of rapid development and international integration. The ideas of communist solidarity and laying low to focus on modernization are becoming obsolete."
- Beijing Always Wins [NYTimes] "THE riots in the Xinjiang region, the home of China’s Muslim Uighur minority, will affirm to many analysts outside the country that social unrest is a direct threat to the continued rule of the Communist Party. If officials don’t take a long, hard look at how to avoid such uprisings, this argument will run, the government could eventually fall. If only Chinese officials saw things that way."
- Shenzhen Mayor Under Investigation [eChinacities] "Xu Zongheng(许宗衡), 54, was removed from his post as mayor of Shenzhen and is under investigation into allegations of corruption and graft that have stretched to include a former Olympic gymnast and several actresses. Xu became mayor of Shenzhen in 2005, advocating changes in the city’s bureaucracy. Many view Xu as partially responsible for the subsequent collapse of Shenzhen’s real estate market. The allegations revolve around bribes received for awarding government posts and bids."
- Chinese police chief urges tough crackdown on gangsters [People's Daily] "China's chief police officer on Tuesday asked nationwide police authorities to take proactive measures and crack down upon mafia-like groups for the 60th founding anniversary of the People's Republic of China. Meng Jianzhu, state councilor and public security minister, made the remarks at a tele-conference Tuesday, urging police authorities to master the movements of gangster groups."
- Internet plays key role in China's latest unrest [The Associated Press] "The brawl between Han Chinese and Uighurs in southern China was scarcely covered by state media, but accounts and photos spread quickly via the Internet and became a spark that helped ignite deadly riots thousands of miles away in the Uighur homeland. Even in tightly controlled China, relatively unfettered commentaries and images circulating on Web sites helped stir up tensions and rally people to join an initially peaceful protest in the Xinjiang region that spiraled into violence Sunday, leaving more than 150 people dead."
- Sex, Drugs, Weapons and Cash: China vs United States [Aimee Barnes] "While real GDP growth and foreign investment are two recognized indicators of which country may come out on top in the end, other less discussed factors like socioeconomic development and the informal economy exist as compelling forces that hold a fair amount of influence over a particularly country’s rise. This post is an homage to these powerful shadows and draws comparisons based on the latest available and relevant data, drawing from 2007-2008 figures in most cases."
- Ethnic Tensions, Mad Libs, and other dysfunctional relationships [Jottings from the Granite Studio] "In response, the Chinese government is calling the only play they know how to run: Propaganda as Mad Lib: (MINORITY GROUP) and the Han Chinese have long historical ties dating back (ABSURD AHISTORICAL NUMBER) of years. Since the opening and reform era began, economic development has brought prosperity to (RESTIVE REGION) including schools, hospitals, and infrastructure. Unfortunately, outside “splittists” led by (ADJECTIVE YOU WOULD USE TO DESCRIBE YOUR FIST WIFE) + (NAME OF EXILED LEADER FROM MINORITY COMMUNITY) will stop at nothing to destabilize China and spread ethnic discord. We resolutely stand in support of a harmonious stable society, the union of all Chinese nationalities and (ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF CCP PABLUM THAT NOBODY REALLY BELIEVES MASQUERADING AS RHETORIC)."
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FWIW Elaine, the ethnic tensions thing, while playing to your readers biases may be a bit off base in this case as thee are so many indications that someone outside the local XinJiang Uigur community was involved in motivating the protests without having to deal with the potential consequences. the timing of a press release from the Uigur World Congress just days before the riots asking for support and coverage of their issues, the suddenness of the way the protests ignited... No one can say this was not atragic situation, but sadly I suspect some organizations are going to take advantage of it to bring more chaos to a bad situation.
For a better analysis than just my opinion, check out Kaiser Kuo's posts on various sites, or see Image Thief's more balanced analysese of this situation.
There is no "balanced" view, pig fucking han-jobbers attacking Uyghurs:
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D99AF7UG0&show_article=1
I remember you called them "pig fucking" Muslim during 911, right?
lambshaslik, why such a racist outburst? Looks like it's not the CCP that you hate, it's Chinese people too. What is driving such anger? Did a Chinese guy give you the green hat to wear? Yes, LOL! LOL! LOL!
I'm not sure it's particularly relevant whether someone outside of China is involved in any uprising. Unless that person is using some form of mind control, the people who take to the streets do it of their own volition. You have to attribute magical powers to exiled leaders or complete mindlessness to the people here to make that an argument with any weight.
I'm not sure where you're getting that I'm playing into my reader's biases. I feel like I've been trying to be as impartial as I can thus far, with links to both Uyghur and Han and Chinese government points of view.
If you want to know my thoughts on the situation, I do believe that Uyghur associations abroad egged this conflict on (and seriously, fuck them), but it didn't really need that much egging on to explode into the riots that happened. Forced assimilation rarely if ever is accomplished with little violence and bloodshed. Knowing how Chinese in the States react to any minor attempt to take away their culture, was it really surprising that Uyghurs at some point would act out?
Elaine, you are an idiot. When a minority ethnic group has no hope and no legal recourse, they don't need "outside agitation" to act out. But the outside agitation in this case came from the attacks on Uyghurs in SE China by Han-jobbers, not from the ETLF.
That's what I said, dumb ass. Read it again.
And watch it, if you and eastman/topgun don't stop being dicks on this thing, I may start Shanghaiist's first ban policy. I'm sick of having neither of you contribute anything but flaming piles of crap to the debate.
Elaine Chow,
You are absolutely free to ban me as before, as the site is not mine. But since I hate to be put in same category with Naneyyangrouchuan and love to keep freedom of speech unspoilt, I choose to leave by myself, for good if you leave this very post here undeleted.
I wish Shangahiist a bright future with a single voice and a lot of fun, which is main reason I am here and which, hopefully, is also very important to all the viewers.
Topgun / Eastman
You truly do belong in the same category as Nanheyangrouchuan and your shrill, thoughtless comments will not be missed.
Elaine, you shud ban him for using such foul langauge against the editor.
Though I am completely for sending all the KKK style Uighur lynching mobster to Guantanamo for waterboarding, of course with nanheyangrouchuan, what Granite Studio wrote impressed me as follows:
---"US government has also tried running this play for the past six years with similar mixed success. Attacks on US troops in Iraq are blamed on ‘outside forces’ seeking to destabilize a ‘democratic Iraq,’ rather than acknowledging the depth of resistance and fear which exists among many Iraqis.. ...Collective violence is a funny thing. Grievances, hatreds, jealousies, and resentment can linger in the collective consciousness for a long time without being expressed through bloodshed, but the longer it simmers the more extreme the reaction when the barrier is breached and violence enters the repertoire of resistance.....it’s also important to remember, as too many people in the United States failed to do in the aftermath to 9-11, that seeking to understand WHY somebody would commit acts of violence is NOT the same thing as condoning those acts".
Thanks Elaine Chow for linking it.
Topgun: So you're saying people should be more understanding of the acts of violence? Or you just like quoting things that seem anti-American, regardless of the point being made?
Both, as "point being made" only to smart guys rather than tow IQ as Bush.
From Elaine Chow:
"If you want to know my thoughts on the situation, I do believe that Uyghur associations abroad egged this conflict on (and seriously, fuck them)"
Not quite what you claim to have said, your attempt at a "balanced" opinion is about as genuine as Fox News'. Still trying to fit in as half Chinese, half foreign?
What's that supposed to mean? "Still trying to fit in as half Chinese, half foreign?" If a White person had expressed that viewpoint, would you make the same remark? This Batman personality to your usual Bruce Wayne is getting tiresome.