Chris Mathews responded to Obrad Grujic and Frank Kim accusations that he was "an evil and greedy person" who had stolen the site from him by posting a press release onto the Freedur website. He's only been able to get hold of some DNSes - meaning that for us in China - if you load Freedur.com using a VPN, you get his side of the story, but if you turn off the VPN, you get Obrad Grujic and Frank Kim's rebuttal. Weird. Shows us how little we know about the workings of the internet, we guess.
Chris claims that he is the sole owner of the business, Freedur, registered in California and that he had outsourced the development of the Freedur app to the people who are now complaining about him stealing it from them. But he was "extremely dissatisfied with the work quality" by their team "as detrimental coding issues were found in the Freedur application."
In August, Chris said, he finally decided to terminate his relationship with the other team and redevelop the app from scratch with two other people (presumably, the Vincent Shen and Rick Olson mentioned by Obrad and Frank).
[Paul] Hay’s [the development leader] team is claiming that I am reverse engineering their software. On the contrary, all Freedur customers should know that 1) Freedur is our software, holding the source code hostage does not make it theirs and 2) the proxy/VPN technology has been open source for years and there is nothing proprietary about it. The true intellectual property of Freedur is its intuitive interface design and disciplined viral marketing that was devised and excuted by me personally.At this point, Hay’s team has taken control of the Freedur Twitter and Facebook accounts. Both websites have been contacted and I expect to regain control of the Twitter account shortly.
I am currently taking all necessary action to restore service to our customers as quickly as possible. It is important all Freedur customers are aware that Hay’s team is attempting to create a cloned service of Freedur in an attempt to steal its customers. However, I am confident that while they can duplicate the code, they cannot duplicate Freedur’s design and intuitiveness.
I would urge our customers to not fall for their tactics by signing on to their new service, and please wait patiently as we re-launch Freedur. The new Freedur service will be completed in approximately 1 week. I have included screenshots of “Freedur 2.0” that will soon be released.
Now, hit the magic switch on your proxy, vpn and check out the version on China's internet, which redirects you to the Freedur Blog. StackFile, a company which claims to own Freedur, writes:
Chris claims in the letter above that we (StackFile Corporation) have hijacked our own service and our own servers, that he just hired us (StackFile Corporation) to make a software for him. That is a blatant lie.StackFile Corporation is not a programming firm and does not offer programming services. StackFile does file hosting, personal file storage and proxy service as part of its business.
Does Chris have some contracts signed with us which can confirm his lies that he has hired us as programming firm? Of course not. He is a blatant liar and a thief.
They say that they had decided to launch an experimental project that turned a proxy program into an easy to use package for the Asian market. Chris Mathews was a friend who had some experience as a designer and was therefore asked to design all the images on the Freedur site and app. When he came to China, he was asked to sign on as the marketing head for the region.
They point to us to back them up. (Since we've been cited, this is what we'll state: The ONLY thing we can confirm is that Chris bought ad space from us. We can't confirm that StackFile owns Freedur - in fact we'd never heard of them until two weeks ago, or that Chris was just a marketing rep. We're not saying he wasn't, we're just saying this is all we know for sure.)
Because our money is stolen, and Chris holds the money, we will ask this time all customers whose record is lost due to Chris sabotage, to fill a dispute on PayPal for a full refund (You can select reason: “I’m not satisfied by the product as it doesn’t provide all features it advertises on its declaration “).Despite of this, after the money is refunded, we will be happy to provide free service to all damaged customers at our own expense in duration not shorter than 1 month.
Yikes. The internet is serious business.

Electrolist: Underground/overground clash again


Me no trustee Chinaman usee Lao Wai last name...
Dear customers,
StackFile deeply apologizes for the whole fiasco casued by Chris Mathews.
As Freedur (StackFile) is not able to restore all customers accounts instantly, and we don't want our customers to suffer, we have decided to offer our service free of charge to anyone who needs it.
Download the program (if you don't have it already) from StackFile web site:
http://www.stackfile.com/freedur/
and use this login:
login: free
password: surf
Sincerely,
StackFile Management
web: www.stackfile.com
e-mail: support {at} stackfile (dot) com
Boring reply here. Just it's my take and I wonder if other people look on it the same.
It would seem Freedur is a small company with a pretty basic service, that to be fair only cost like $8 a month. There's a hosting bill, and the software is probably assembled out of very basic open-source tools (they brag about the ability to open .rar files, which I believe comes standard with Windows.)
A friend goes to China and so they get in an informal arrangement where they make a version to get around the famous great firewall of China. Despite being such a basic service, it makes plenty money. Although really the service sells itself because it's the only real option out there, Chris views his work on advertising and his presence in China as the reason the company is making money, and even views that the venture is his baby, since it started as an informal arrangement when he went to China.
He chaffs about being the one who really drove the idea and not being the one getting all the money. Instead of starting a competing service called "Freedum" or whatever, he rationalizes that it was really his baby from the start, so he decides to take full control, by whatever means necessary.
Then it gets messy.
Hey stackfile,
Thanks for trying but the login: free
password: surf doesn't work!!!
just use witopia (http://www.web2asia.com/2009/07/07/first-twitter-now-facebook-banned-in-china/)
sorry for double post, now with link: http://www.web2asia.com/2009/07/07/first-twitter-now-facebook-banned-in-china/
Fuck Freedur, it slowed down and crashed my Mac so many times. People shouldn't release software when it's that buggy. Nor should you explain the origins of your brand name if it's based on an idea that stupid. Witopia seems to work OK, though with internet slowdowns lately it's hard to test fairly.
But I still don't understand why are you blaming Chris Matthews!?!? He's been doing a great job on Hardball, and you can watch him without VPN anyhow: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/
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