Everything (almost) that's happened with Google + China so far

The Olympics are now over, and China can resume it's usual isolationist policy when it comes to the world

Curious that people are posting at how much better Baidu's market share is.

Yes, it's better, because they play ball with the government by censoring content. As a result, the government allows them to go ahead and post massive amounts of illegal IP protected content with little or no reprecussion.

It's amusing to read China's gov't officials make their official responses about abiding by the law and welcoming internet companies when they block the most popular international websites/services and allow local businesses to steal IP in plain sight. Nothing new about that kind of ridiculous hypocrisy.

Well, business surveys from CNBC today suggest many companies in the US are under attack from chinky chong gay man ass fen qing based in China and CNBC commentators have openly asked "is business in China worth the cost of cyberwarfare and IP theft".

Dirty, ugly, worthless china.

lambshaslik, does it pain you the chinky chong chinamen don't give a rat's arse about what you folks think. LOL!

If the 5 cent han-jobbers didn't care what the world thinks, they wouldn't swarm websites discussing China (such as the BBC's "have your say" regarding "should Google leave China" and you wouldn't go to such lengths on this site.

China shud use the in the face tactic of exposing google's own dirty laundry with uncle sam.

google is threatening to leave china because of breach of privacy?

google may not adhere to the contract it has to do business in china because of conscience reasons for privacy and human rights and 'don't be evil'(company motto).

but consider this. ever since september 11 2001 our us government approved full unwarranted access to everybody's email and text messages and other communications. everything is filtered through the at&t telecommunications building in san francisco for our government to look for words and phrases and clues that deems harmful against the state of america. http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=at_t_1

does 'don't be evil' not apply to the american government 'attacking' our emails without warrant?

i would like to see google grandstand against the us government hacking our privacy as well! this is what called 'selective morality'.

ongoing google vs china story. http://www.nydailynews.com/money/2010/01/13/2010-01-13_google_may_.html

Orpheus, you are also an an idiot. Why can't you accept the an opposing viewpoint? LOL! Google shud cut the crap and exit China. But they won't. Why? Because China is shaping upto be the world's most lucrative Internet Market. In the long term, its ambition to be the biggest and baddest will be thwarted. I am so happy that Google is (really) leaving China. Good riddance to them. I hope Google collapses and broken apart.

This will hurt Chinese internet users more than it will hurt Google. Only 2% of Google's revenue comes from China; the rest comes from the 5 billion people who couldn't use Baidu even if they wanted to because of the language difference. Meanwhile 19% of Chinese internet users prefer Google, so this group will be missing out on (relatively) un-harmonized search results.

(stats taken from http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/13/google.china.analysis/index.html)

In fact, standing up for free speech will probably translate into positive publicity, increased brand loyalty and improved market share for Google. And they know this full-well; that's the real reason for this move. Google has been around long enough to know that posting a blog entry like this would not be the right way to decrease censorship if that was their actual goal. So the only motivation for this move would be the PR benefits.

And are those 19% of Chinese internet users pissed off at Google? No, they're laying flowers at Google's doorstep. Check out ChinaSMACK's coverage, the translated user comments are almost universally pro-Google. Google didn't create this situation: the CCP did by trying to read private emails that they had no business reading. But Google is dealing with it in a very ballsy way. Props to them.

Clinton's measured words perhaps shed some light on how far Google will go: "the ability to 'operate with confidence in cyberspace' is critical in a modern society and economy".

So it's less about "principles" than about operational difficulties.

So Google will chicken out from an act of chickening out.

Google will stay. China will lie. Baidu will try again.

@waixingren: you were too kind to Baidu. Remember the notorious extortion in their ranking scheme? Web mafia, that's what Baidu is.

Baidu is one of the most disgusting enterprises on earth. Fox News is like Mother Teresa alongside the "Hundred Poisons". I am sure Baidu has everything to do with the Google attacks.

@BBC1: you are an idiot. An embarassment to people who wish China and Chinese well.

Let me offer you this highly intellectaully accomplished observation:

YO MAMA!

Google = ballsy international company that respects the rules of the game and has balls the size of Mt. Everest... did I mention they have balls? Big ones.

Baidu = bastard step-child of a company that hides behind big brother while breaking every known IP law ever created... neither of which (baidu or big brother) have balls. Not even one.

Google is smart only in finding a good excuse to leave CHina where it owes a pitiful 20% market share while Baidu has a handsome 65.

hey assbreath what percent of the world's largest market does YOUR search engine control? fuck all? thats what I thought, now go back to eating jiangjun's corn hole.

We are talking about Google's leaving China. is Google exiting "world market"?

But who'll expect good logic from a drunk beast?

We definitely need some nanheyangrouchuan goodness around here to balance 'em out.

I see the "wu mao dang" is out in force already. Down with Han-job!

Who needs wumaos when tons of money is made from one's portfolio of Baidu shares. Even Americans are cashing in. Last time I checked, Baidu shares soared 17 percent. LOLLLL!!

Yes, Google, go away!

Google's influence must be cut down to size around the globe. It's new Nexus phone is a bust. Good news indeed.

Seems all west media are pretending blind to the fact that many Chinese writors are preparing to suit Google for its violation of Intelectual Property Law with its "Digital Library", which is also part of reason for it to exit. I guess Mr. Eric Smith of IIPA can tell more.

Wait a minute - China has Intellectual Property Law? Who knew?

Yes, Since China jointed IIPA in 1980, China has made quite some laws to protect copyrights, trade marks, patents and the writers'd rights which Google violated and which hypocrite west media knowingly and unfairly avoided mentioning at present.

Meanhwile China's violation of those laws cannot legalize Google's violation.

"Intellectual Property for me, but not for thee" might sound like a convincing argument to rushour, but it's rather transparently ridiculous to everyone else.

The biadu.tw domain is not owned by Baidu. China shud tell Google to fcuk off or put up. LOL!