Mongolian Neo-Nazis afraid "Foreigners... might start taking our women"

Listen to BBC1, who is Han, tell someone with Mongolian descent how they will be treated.

Xiaochensu was probably born and raised in the west so he may actually get a warm welcome.

Certainly much warmer than Han-job BBC1.

Quite the commie history lesson you received BBC, the west didn't learn about the USSR/PRC war until the late 80s, now it is discussed in western war colleges.

well, my grandpa don't even speak Mongolian...I better go get some lessons on Mongolian so that I can still pass for "pure Mongolian" (long shot, but I guess worth trying)

Won't work. The Mongolian dialect spoken in Nei Mongol is Chahar, which is distinct from the Khalka dialect of Outer Mongolia. They will know straightaway you are from Ovor Mongolia.

hmmm....considering that I am an ethnic Mongolian (even though I don't speak Mongolian and don't have a Mongolian name)...I wonder if I would get even worse treatment than the Han Chinese when I get to Mongolia proper (only thing worse than a foreign imperialist is a traitor, right?) any thoughts, guys?

You will be treated worst. The Mongolian Nazis consider Ovor Mongolians (Inner Mongolians) as Chinese tainted. Inner Mongolians are very nice people, and many Outer Mongolians too. But it can get very nasty if you run into the Nazis.

There is no future for racism, no place for racists in a rapidly internationalizing world.

The attitude of the PRC towards Mongolia may be influenced by the fact that Mongolia became the second socialist country on earth after Russia, a quarter century before China turned socialist. An older brother. Plus, of course, Mongolia might be considered the greater Russian sphere of influence.

The republicans in Taiwan seem to simply view Mongolians as Chinese.

That makes history also easier to digest for the Taiwanese. The Yuan dynasty was Mongolian. If I understand correctly, under Mongolian rule the social order was Mongolians on top, followed by other foreigners, and at the bottom Han Chinese.

By strict definition, it was not the Chinese who conquered Tibet, it was the Mongolians, rendering all Yuan dynasty territorial claims by China void.

Mongolia for China is its rich Mineral Resources, which only China can mine efficiently, since Mongolia is landlocked. Actually, you are off the mark with regards to Han Chinese' standing in the Mongol caste system during the Yuan. Mongols place those who opposed them the most vehemently at the bottom. Northern Hans and the Jurchens (ancestors of the Manchus) are placed 3rd, with the Southern Hans, Hmongs and other Manzi placed 4th. Interestingly enough, The Khitans are also placed in the 3rd rank, even though they are sinified Mongols. But of course, this did not stop them from utilizing increasing number of Hans in their armies. The victor of Baghdad was Guo Kan, a Han, who fought under Hulagu Khan. This over reliance on Han soldiers towards the latter Yuan peiod made Mongol collapse the more rapid. In fact, Genghiz Khan could never defeat the Jurchens of the Jin completely and it took the mighty Mongol armies decades to defeat the Song, this with the help of Han siege engineers and infantry. The Chinese were the toughest to defeat for the Mongols. It was also the Chinese under the Ming who destroyed and sack the Mongol capital of Karakorum. If there is one constant in history, China always have the last laugh.

Actually, the Mongols did not carry out a full invasion campaign into Tibet, the Tibetans submitted with little fighting. The Ming inherited this right to Tibet vacated by the Yuan, just as the Indian Government inherited the conquests of the Mughals and the British. Tibetan theocrats continued to pay tribute to the Ming. The Manchus of course intervened in Tibet directly and established direct rule for a period, waning towards the latter Qing. The Chinese Republicans and the Communists inherited this claim to Tibet, a fact acknowledged by the world, since no one recognized Tibetan independence. So by definition and facts, China's claim to Tibet is strong. China's current territory is based on the conquests of the Manchus, who by cultural definition, are very Chinese.

This shouldn't be a surprise as a backlash against globalization, and the Chinese have no right to complain considering the hostile attitudes towards Chinese women with foreign husbands in China. But that is not Nazism, that is traditional culture right?

And the Mongol claims are legitimate, as China is kidnapping S. Asian women by luring them in with job offers, then they end up an imprisoned baby factory for local bosses and their sons.

Bad, bad China.

I don't see any South Asian women like Sri Lankans or Indians being captured as brides. LOL! Get your geography right. LMAO! On top of that, Mongols are just sore wankers, pretty much like you. Ahahahaha!

South includes SE and many imprisoned brides do come from everywhere between Thailand and the PI. It wouldn't be too surprising if Burmese girls were being spirited into China's nether regions to satisfy the needs of local Party ogres.

Russia has plenty of border with Mongolia and can mine the ore efficiently, and the US, Canada, SK and Japan are there to help. In fact, US and Russian military units are training with the Mongols.

It was the USSR that saved Mongolia from being overrun by Han, 500,000 dead, mostly PLA, when the PLA human wave met USSR armor, artillery and dug in machine guns on the open plains.

Funny, if China was the hardest for the Mongols to beat, how did they conquer so much of China and why was it the Russians who overthrew the Mongols????

China is the greatest only in the minds of Chinese. For the rest of us, it is just a place of horrible smells, shoddy goods, easy women and odd males.

What a lame comeback. LOL! Yeah, Russia can mine Mongolia's minerals, but Russia has crappy infrastructure and longer routes to sea access. And Russia has little demand for Mongolia's minerals. If China don't buy or exert exorbitant right of passage costs, forget Mongolia exporting to other countries. Yeah, if you read thru the Guardian or New York Times, there are a lot of trafficked SE Asian women to the US and Europe. I am sure you tried some of the services.

As for your 500K PLA dead, stop farting from your arse. Please provide a link. LOL! China never fought the Soviet Union in Mongolia. The Japanese did in WW2 and lost to the Soviets. The Mongols took decades to overrun China, only in the reign of Kublai Khan, go read up on the history. While it took the Mongols a few years to overrun Russia and Eastern Europe. The Mongols vanquished a powerful army of Teutonic knights at Legnitz and murdered almost half the Hungarian population and destroyed its army at Mohi. It was the Ming who overthrew the Yuan, not the Russians. It was 3 centuries later that Ivan the Terrible finally broke Mongol power of the Golden Horde, while Mongol rule only lasted decades in China, it lasted 300 years in Russia. And by now, I guess you are fuming by your complete lack of knowledge of history. LOL!

And yeah, we love China. And obviously, you are obsessed by it, given your prolific flaming on Chinese forums. Ahahahaha!

By the way, "Jew" is proper noun, just like Chinese, Mongolian and Nazi. Mind your caps.

I was in Mongolia a few years ago and neo-Nazism is very real. The Chinese threat is perceived and driven by the failure of the Mongolian polity. Here is one country that conquered a vast swathe of the known world is now dwarfed by the Goliath China. How dare a subject people loom so high and successful over the former masters! Everywhere you go in Mongolia, Genghiz Khan is never far away. He is in Subataar Square, on a hillside, even the Airport is named after him. Mongolia is so devoid of achievements, there is only 1 person in their history that is worth remembering, and he was the equivalent of Satan to the many peoples who sufferred genocide at his jands.

Although Mongolian women are very comely (I had lot of success), it is the Koreans that go on package sex tours to Ulan Bataar, with daily flights from Seoul. For such a travesty, they are as equally hated, although Korean soap operas are very popular there. I think it is really irrelevant to compare the situation in Mongolia whith what happened in Xinjiang or the Cantonese protest. Mongolia is a sovereign nation and whatever Chinese there are in Mongolia, they keep a very low profile, unlike the Koreans, who stamp their economic power all over UB.

Afterall, it's not funny if you are accosted by a group of Dayar or Aries youths. Even Caucasians have been attacked outside bars for being with Mongolian women. Afterall, Mongolian men have a reputation of drunkeness and violence against women, which drives them to the arms of foreign men.

I'm calling shenanigans. Afterall, someone that uses the word "comely" doesn't score without some cash.

These guys would shit their own piss if they went to a couple of bars in Beijing.

once an article is published on the internet, it's there pretty much forever. in 50 years, I'm pretty sure there will only be one or two sentences in the above article that will be worth quoting or remembering. and not the good kind.

Totally agree, and I hope we're talking about the same two.

First they came for the Han ren...

Oh El Jefe, why are you so jealous? I never pay for sex, unless you think buying a dinner or a few presents meant paying for sex. LOL! And Mongolian women are comely.

Oh yes, jealousy! Thats what I feel for your sex life that was defined by that one lay in 1964 when comely was part of the vernacular

Oh El Jefe, I wasn't even born in 1964. But a grand dad like you can sure get frustrated. LOL!