Kong Qingdong: Hong Kongers are bastards, dogs and thieves

You know what... at first when I watched the clip taken in HK MTR, I found that the guy was overreacting, he will probably won't react that way if the kids were not from China - Mainland. And the problem can be resolved by nice talk..

However, I found it utterly absurb after I watched Kong's interview. People said that he is ultra-nationalist, but from what I saw from that interview is that Kong is definitely not a nationalist, let alone ultra-nationalist, he is a traitor deep down his bone, someone with hidden agenda behind his comments, someone who promotes separatism. Why I say this, I say this because he's a Professor, for god sake, he should have some sense to think that what he has said is extremely damaging and it can have domino effects in this whole China-HK saga. And not only China-HK relationship, it could lead to China-Xinjiang, China-Tibet, etc, if this issue is not resolved quickly. Thus, I clearly think that he's someone with hidden agenda, and definitely not ultra-nationalist as what people have labelled him.

What is nationalist? Nationalist is someone who tries to do his/her best for the interest of the nation. And what he had said is clearly the opposite. What he was trying to do here, and has succeeded, is to create a bigger crack in China - HK relationship.

I purposedly created an account here to post this message, hoping that this message can reach out to more Chinese (Mainlanders/HK/Taiwanese/etc). I know there're many Chinese from Mainlanders are very annoying at times, however, we have to be patient, they have gone through a period of time, none of us who were not born in China can understand and they are improving now in lightning speed, in terms of education, characters, moral, etc. I must say their government have been doing extremely good job and definitely moving in the right direction. However, China is big, and have world largest population, it's not easy and almost a mission impossible for the government to tackle the education/moral/legal issues in China. I believe by giving them another 30-50 more years, they will understand, improve in their characters and behavior.

I have a few friends here from China, they can be quite loud and rude while speaking, however, they are really nice persons after you get along with them. But of course, there're many of them are as described by HK people, but everywhere in this world has this group of people. You find many of them are from China simply because they have the largest population in the world. So please stop promoting this hate/discriminating trend. It pains me to see that you are fighting against each other.

For those haters from HK, if you really think that you are superior in character, humanity, behavior, etc, shouldn't you be talking nicely to them who are not behaving well? I believe they will understand and one day will realize that they are wrong. You probably think that I'm not from HK, thus, I can say all of these because I don't feel the agony and pain of HK people. However, the problem that you are having now is the fault of HK government, such as the problem with high property prices, health care system, etc, the HK government can easily put a limit to the number of immigrants to HK and the problem will never happen. The HK government should be able to see this problem coming, so you probably have to ask yourself why HK government is doing this? Will it be even worse, had HK government not embrace China as what they have done now?

Let me remind you, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT THE WORLD WILL BE BETTER WORLD IN THE FUTURE IF CHINA COLLAPSED JUST LIKE USSR DID? If not, we all need to be more tolerant.

Last line to end my long comment: 本是同根生 相煎何太极. I know you may disagree by saying that "No, I'm not Chinese, I'm Cantonese". But honestly, please re-think again, then you will understand that your skin is yellow and your culture is Confucianism, and your ancestors are from China. Just like you can't pick who your parents are, you can't pick your races, but instead, you have to work harder to make it a better world as all races are equal. 

To really end this comment, I hope that Kong will be punished for promoting separation due to racism/regionalism comments, he should be fired and the TV channel management should be re-structured too.

Bravo!

恐罄东-恐怕天数已尽、恶行罄竹难书、根本不成东西。

Seriously... if I remembered correctly... wasn't it because of the Opium War that China had to give Hong Kong to Britain for 99 years as a colony?  Now this professor turned around and called us dogs.  Shouldn't he be ashamed of himself?

LOL, how many Hong Kongers are actually descended from Hong Kongers pre-1842? I betcha your father is from the mainland. The professor is calling you folks dogs, not us.

If I may, there is a fundamental error of equivocation: the word 'Chinese' has been misinterpreted by our many learned commentators; the word 'Chinese' when understood in the Chinese language can mean a few things: 1) a citizen of the People's Republic of China (中华人民共和国人 or more commonly 中国人);or 2) a citizen of the Republic of China (中华民国人 or more commonly 台湾人), i.e. Taiwanese; or 3) a person descended from the Han Chinese ethnic group (汉族 or 汉人).

Since Chinese' can be both a noun and an adjective: you can thus say 'Chinese Chinese', 'Chinese Taiwanese', 'Chinese Hong Konger', 'Chinese Malaysian', 'Chinese Singaporean', 'Chinese American' etc. note that in these examples adjectives are always placed before nouns; likewise, you can have 'Tibetan Chinese', 'Uighur Chinese' etc. i.e. these examples follow the format of cultural or ethnic identity followed by nationality.
It is evident that I am using the first two meanings as nouns, whereas the last meaning is used as an adjective - this is not necessarily the rule.Therefore, the phrase, "I am (not) Chinese", is necessarily nebulous when placed out of context - does it refer to the nationality or the ethnicity or something else (I don't know)?
If a Hong Kong national of Han Chinese descent tells you he/she is not 'Chinese' then what he/she probably means is he/she is not a citizen - or at perhaps doesn't wish to be identified as - of the People's Republic of China; although there are legal complications with this post 1997, it doesn't arise when say, a 'Chinese American' - born in the USA - tells you the same phrase; while your genes are more or less set in stone, your nationality can be changed - subject to various laws (I don't know).
Disclaimer: I am not here to incite a riot; I am here merely to touch on some points we may have missed out in the heat of the moment. Neither am I here as an authoritative scholar on Chinese studies; I am merely just a 'Chinese' member of the human species.

BBC_redux ain't even mad!

CUNT!

I've read parts of this thread with interest.  First, I think everyone needs to take a deep breath, calm down and be civil.  Second, let's not let a controversial comment throw us into a tizzy.  Obviously there are underlying issues.  However, understanding and compassion on both sides can quell a lot of the "fire" here.

such piece of shit is a professor in a beijing university? it explain a lot of things..

Interesting comment from the net, sadly, it is reflective of some Hong Konger's mentality:

中國人=歧視自己人 搞分化 見高拜見底踩 仇人富貴 厭人貧

漢奸/假西人/覺得高人一等

罵人蝗蟲同人地罵你係狗有咩分別!!!自欺欺人香港人

果個孔XX教授就真係狗來啦 搞分化晒中國人先安樂

英國報紙話香港人係狗又唔見班香港人示威!!!

中國人冇得救啦槍口對內不對外自己人打自己人覺得好勁咁

俾外國人笑你傻仔仲覺得好有型咁

In response to BBC_Redux, I don't know if you are Chinese by blood or if you are an expat or whatever. I am Chinese by blood, and I will admit you got the historical facts right. But you have to look at this incident alone, the smell of Kaitak and the Hong Kong Police Force from the 70's have nothing to do with or instigate this matter. Please look at this objectively.

Hong Kong is a crowded little place that ENJOYED the British law and custom they brought us, that is the truth. I will not consider myself British, I had a British passport and I gave it up, no big deal. We never thought we were really British anyway, or would the British government take us all in shall an apocalypse occur or anything. Never. If you did, you think too much. If I wanted to be British, I'd move there after 1997, and so would many others. Was there an immigration influx to the UK? No.

After the handover, it meant doom and gloom for some Hong Kongers, it's true and you gotta to accept that, and it's only normal because we really did enjoy the financial stability and freedom to express ourselves. Now when everything's all good, our future will be forcefully changed, but for the better or worse? We didn't know at the time. You GOTTA understand how we felt, it's only human. Therefore there was this fear in everyone of us.

At the time, I, along with many other locals, really wanted to respect our "motherland", we came from the same ancestors anyways right? Once in a while we may crack a joke saying, how our city is being crowded with mainlanders now, how when we visit Tsim Sha Tsui we better speak Mandarin, etc. I, for one, never insulted any mainlander, never called them dogs or b_stards. We tried to respect them, make the national anthem feel like our anthem and all.

But, what good has this change brought to us? Our homeland grew chaotic, we suffered SARS, we took a punch to the face with the credit crisis while China continued to prosper (not China's fault but we weren't very jolly through that), we eat mainland-made fake food products made from rubbish, blankets stuffed with used menstrual pads, phone batteries that blow up in our pants. What I'm trying to say is that anger is building up and you can't deny that, while the central government never really did anything for us (fair enough since they promised no changes for 50 years), we feed the mainlanders with a place to travel, luxury goods to buy, but we rely on them for work, yet they feed us all this subpar food and goods? And mainland kids come to our place and poop in our shopping malls, behave in misconduct on our trains?

What Hong Kong had been enjoying, public order under the law, is being trampled on by mainlanders. How often do you hear a mainlander say he/she appreciates us? For me, not once. Yet they buy our houses in bulks, raise the property prices now it's hit sky roof.

They brought more pain than anything else, that's why we are angry, that's why some Hong Kongers may have been disrespectful. But there's a valid reason, mind you. I don't endorse this kind of treatment of mainlanders, but this professor is sort of saying, it's not right to teach mainlanders a lesson, be it a child eating on a train, or taking a dump in the streets. How dare him, to not respect our rules of the game? To see our trust and worship of law as rubbish?

The phone batteries that blew up were Nokia batteries assembled in China made by Sony in Japan. Talk about your prejudice!

Hong Kong people lived under British law??? Up to the early 70s, HKG was 10x more corrupt than China today. Before the ICAC, firemen will see houses burn unless they get some laisee and cops collected protection money, even British cops were in the take. British HKG was corrupt to the core.

Howard, I was born in the US to Shanghainese parents who went to Hong Kong after 49, I spent my formative years in HKG and I hold a HKSAR passport. What we see in the mainland today mimics what HKG was. It's quite funny that I witnessed first hand the prejudice and contempt the Shanghainese emigres had of Hong Kong people, yet HKG people acted the same way today.  見高拜見底踩 仇人富貴 厭人貧. The only thing the British provided to HKG was stability. In fact, most Hong Kong people lived in slums (most Shanghai emigres were relatively well off as almost all were educated , skilled and were professionals), some slums like those near Wong Tai Sin were still there well into the 2000s. Life in HKG was terrible and the British didn't give a hoot about the welfare of the locals. It was only after the left wing inspired riots of 1967 that the British realised that they needed to do something to mollify the anger of the disadvantaged in Hong Kong, hence the initiatives wih public housing and others. The British ran colonies for profit, unlike the French, who did it for prestige. Once there is no profit, they will ran.  Britain was the only colonial power at the time to actually strip a colony's citizens the right of abode in the mother country with the various nationality acts enacted in the 60s and the last one in 71, I think. Ye after Hong Kong reverted, Britain gave full British citizenship to Gibraltans, Falklanders etc, talk about a slap to HKG people's face. Don't even get me started on the BNO issue!!!! A  practically useless passport.

If the British were so benign, why did its colonies all so eager to kick them out and seek independence? That is because Britain only ran and exploited its colonies. The modern US and France, on the otherhand, actually subsidizes is colonies, but for the British, it was the reverse. Back in British Hong Kong, commercial decisions were skewed to British interests. For example KMB and CMB had to buy Leyland, you only see MAN and Volvo buses after 1997. Cathay Pacific had to buy British and Rolls Royce engines, for example, talk about cronyism. For the 150 years that the UK ruled HKG, it gave Hong Kong no democracy, yet was very ready to grant self rule to white colonies like Australia, Canada and New Zealand.

The thing is, I also watched the MTR video, if the mainlander was eating on the train, the Hong Kong do gooder shud have to pointed to the issue of rules, not insult the women with the tag "you mainlanders". Kong is just reacting to that tag. If I see a HKG youth smoking on the bus, do I yell "You Hong Kong People"??? Why can't you admit the outburst of the Hong Kong do gooder is a symptom of the widespread prejudice of HKG people towards mainlanders and colored people?

中國人=歧視自己人 搞分化 見高拜見底踩 仇人富貴 厭人貧

漢奸/假西人/覺得高人一等

罵人蝗蟲同人地罵你係狗有咩分別!!!自欺欺人香港人

果個孔XX教授就真係狗來啦 搞分化晒中國人先安樂

英國報紙話香港人係狗又唔見班香港人示威!!!

中國人冇得救啦槍口對內不對外自己人打自己人覺得好勁咁

俾外國人笑你傻仔仲覺得好有型咁

Thats what I was trying to say.  I too support this message

sigh.....Japanese killed millions of Chinese in world war II, Hong Kongers now  adore them and support their economy by buying anything they sell or anything written in Japanese.....Chinese from Mainland eat in the train, Hong Kongers attack them with discrimination....Does not make sense at all!!!

That's about 3 generations ago. Yes they were detestable back then, but can you randomly blame any living Japanese person for that now? What flawed logic. As much as I feel sympathetic for our Chinese ancestors, I can't just force myself to hate another person who's done no wrong to me in my lifetime, or his, for that matter. Why don't we all stop buying German cars, or stop eating pasta since they threatened to take over the world? With their supremist thinking?

Back on topic, if a foreigner/mainlander comes to Hong Kong, disregards our laws and rules of our society, that's disrespect and he/she should deserve the same disrespect from us.

ha....I don't think you get my satire. Anyway, not blaming everyone, but there are still some German and Japanese society that still have the same mind as the ones 3 generations ago.  They don't regret and want this happen again.  Regardless, if you read it again...what I was trying to emphasized was Chinese people can move on and cooperate with the Japs even with the scares that Japanese made in the past, why can't we with our own people? if not, how long will it take before we realize we are human after all and let's work it out?!?  Get it? if not, read it over and again until you do. j/k

you last sentence sounds more like scartism to me!

I think what howard meant was that we need to focus on issues of today and not ones that happened way over half a century ago.

I just think that this whole issue was exploited by the media... adding more fuel to the fire

I had to watch the video and now I analyze.  So in mainland, its ok to run traffic lights because its anti imperialism, its ok to take shits on side walks because its anti imperialism. Hong Kong is bad because there are laws in place to influence order for its citizens and visitors alike. You speak another dialect you are not considered human.  

He points out that they get treated different. Mainlanders are an easier target. 

Everything he hates about Hong Kong goes 10 fold in mainland. Its almost like he has never been to hong kong.

To take away all the trade with mainland is like opening up a door for trade with other neighboring nations.  He forgets that hong kong is a trading hub, all types of commerce happens in that little area.  It would cost them more money or just utilize the land that goes un developed.  

The issue he speaks og has nothing to do with morals. which brings me back to the point that he is a self hating mainlander for having shitty morals.

If the world hate you and then your own hates you then maybe you should improve on lessening the hate.

If it is rules and enforcement that keeps such a clean culture as hong kong shouldn't be a virtue mainland to aim for.  So he's admitting to his viewers that CHINA is a lawless, poor mannered, wild best that doesn't need any laws because the people are doing what they wanna do. Everyone else are just dogs on a leash.  

Then the 20 square meter house comment.  WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW. Almost like this guy doesn't live in China.  I don't about you guys but the "ping fangzi" on main land is no better than the cages the poor live in hong kong. 

I love hypocrisy

The Guy went to Hong Kong and was pissed because his government would never be able to create and maintain and environment the brits, and the japs developed.  His government could never come out with laws that would instill value to how a great land of great people could act.  Kong Qingdong is self hating man for he couldn't believe how pleasant chinese under a different system and that these people who are supposed to be same people look down at them from across the lines.  

This is something China needs to get over and change.  Mainlanders neglect to realize that money can't buy class.  That takes practice and the government knows this.  Blame all this on uncle Mao, he really mind fucked mainland.

duhhhh! Hong Kong was very filthy back in the old days, Hong Kong people were known to be very rude. Even today, if you are a Philipino maid or South Asian, you'd hear a lot of derogatory remarks like Bun Mui and Ah Cha etc.

The Kaitak nullah was so polluted you could smell the stink in the whole Kowloon. Victoria harbor was a sewage lake, and beaches along Castle Peak Road had to be closed because of pollution from factories in Tsuen Wan.

There was a popular saying back then, that the religion of HK is money. In the TV series, Noble House, when Pierce Brosnan got off the plane for the first time, a he wondered what that smell was from the Kaitak nullah, and a fellow passenger replied: the smell of money. Sounds similar? Maybe HKers were secretly listening to Mao broadcasts from across the border, LOL!

I also remembered in the early 90s, foreign correpondents hired by the SCMP would remark that the national sport of Hong Kong was people jostling for seat spaces once the subway doors open. The streets were dirty, so much for HK civility. It was only from the late 90s that you see HK people being more polite and more civic mindeds, and especially after SARS, when elderly HKers stopped spitting. One thing I like about travelling in China is that you can strike up a conversation with about anyone (not in HK though) and many gave me special treatment because I came from HKG, I don't see that happening now.

The success of Hong Kong had nothing to do with the Brits, nor is Taiwan's related to the Japs. Hong Kong was at the right place and at the right time. With the CCP victory in 49, talented people from China, especially Shanghai, came to Hong Kong and with China being shut off, HKG became the obvious conduit as an entrepot for China, the only thing Britain provided was stability. One just have to look at some of the poorest countries in the world, and they were ruled by Britain for decades, and even centuries, such as Bangladesh, Belize, India, Sierra Leone, Swaziland, South Yemen, Malawi, Gambia etc etc. So much for your "Brits"environment. Ironically, HKG was also at the right place when China boomed beyond belief, as its fortunes in the late 90s was lifted by China. Taiwan, on the other hand, prospered under the stewardship of the KMT, and has nothing to do with Japan. Korea was a very destitute country in 1945, when Japan lost the war, and per capita income was even lower than India's. It will be a huge insult if you tell Koreans their present prosperity is due to the "Jap"environment.

My argument is not the history of colonialism as you pretty much re-affirm what Im saying about this guy.  My argument is the influence of perceived class from its occupiers.  Everyone knows that London was a slum lord but the spirit of their realm of progress pushed forward. Its in most of our history from the US, to Australia, to Singapore, to in this case Hong Kong. Its the people within and the pride to want to change and move forward and with the support of the government to actually achieve the goal to civilize hong kong. 

In mainland I have yet to see real efforts to socially educate and enforce civility that the people can take serious.  They have taken major steps over the years but the people are not really in support of their efforts because of many factors I blame most of it on Mao and Confucius and then the culture of China.  The policies in place will only go as far as the desires of the people or the representatives of the people and in mainland there are too many other goals trumping real social etiquette to fight for. If you ask an older korean they will strongly disagree and the same goes for Taiwanese people.  These people took key elements from their previous occupiers thru out the years of development and made into their own.  Real domestic policies back with money, education and family virtues  were set into place that enforced quality of life that has nothing to do with political harmony. Thru proper social education generations after them can enjoy the fruits of their efforts.  If you go to Korea  and or taiwan there is strong evidence to support that and pride. So again I say "The Guy went to Hong Kong and was pissed because his government would never be able to create and maintain and environment the brits, and the japs developed.  His government could never come out with laws that would instill value to how a great land of great people could act.  Kong Qingdong is self hating man for he couldn't believe how pleasant chinese under a different system and that these people who are supposed to be same people look down at them from across the lines"

What Kong said was his own personal opinion, what does this have to do with mainlanders??? I have nothing to be ashamed of Confucius, there are always ups and downs in every culture. In fact Chinese culture is so resilient, we are still standing 2 thousand years after Rome fell. And what does Mao and Confucius have to do with the equation??? Japan gave nothing to the Koreans, but exploited them mercilessly, that's why the Koreans hate them (in fact Korea's modern systems today are based more on America rather than Japan's models). Korea's strength is from its Confucian discipline, despite it (Confucianism is like Korea;s state religion) . Whatever Kong said, the reaction from some Hong Kongers including you are way out of proportion. I have seen with my own eyes Hong Kong youths littering, shouting profanities, smoking in buses, people being totally rude, cutting Taxi queues. The success of Hong Kong people is entirely due to the Chinese people. Hong Kong was a dump when my father came here from Shanghai in 49. It was the Chinese people, like my dad, who made HKG. Singapore was known as the slums of the Far East when it was a British Colony, the rest is history. Like you said, if the British system is so good, why then are some of he world's poorest countries previously ruled by Britain, like Sierra Leone, Bangladesh, Malawi, Nigeria, Gambia, Zambia, etc etc??? Why is it that there are only 2 non white ex-british colonies (with a population over a million)
that are successful? Why??? Why just Hong Kong and Singapore??? It's the Chinese culture of these 2 places!!! Duhhh!

中國人=歧視自己人 搞分化 見高拜見底踩 仇人富貴 厭人貧

漢奸/假西人/覺得高人一等

罵人蝗蟲同人地罵你係狗有咩分別!!!自欺欺人香港人

果個孔XX教授就真係狗來啦 搞分化晒中國人先安樂

英國報紙話香港人係狗又唔見班香港人示威!!!

中國人冇得救啦槍口對內不對外自己人打自己人覺得好勁咁

俾外國人笑你傻仔仲覺得好有型咁

you are imperialism Korean!!

I am a Korean??? I am a Hong Konger, LOL! I live in Hong Kong, I am fully aware of the prejudice that mainlanders have to go through in Hong Kong, and the Filipinos and South Asians. That's why HKG is one of the few places in Asia with an anti-racism law, introduced not too long ago to combat exactly this type of prejudice.

Don't call them "Jap"....It's a racist term D:

I know, I am just using the exact word used by the poster I replied to.

sorry just thru that out

I consider myself a Hong Konger, his remarks are actually right to the point, the part I didn't agree was the Mandarin part.

You consider yourself a Hong Konger, but it appears that you are putting Hong Kongers down a lot.  Why is that?  It appears that you are really angry at Hong Kongers.  Why is that, British-Born-Chinese (BBC)?

I am not putting Hong Kongers down, I am putting you ugly bigots down.

The child made a mess after having noodles at the subway and his mum didn't even care to clean it up. sick chinese, GET OUT OF HONG KONG AND STOP CONTAMINATING OUR CITY.

I live in SH, I'm not Chinese and rode the metro with my 2 young kids 5&6.. We saw a man take his young toddler to the corner of the train and let her shit all over the freakin moving train (have not seen a baby or young child in diapers once here) - my own 2 children and I were aghast & mortified.  But everyone was looking at our reaction as if its abnormal!!!

You are just speaking out of ignorance. How many kids have you actually seen pissing in Shanghai's subway. I have ridden in Shanghai's subway countless times but have not witneseed parents let their kids piss in the subway. You folks have to stop the ugly generalization of people. If you go to the side streets of Paris and Barcelona, the streets stank of piss, and the dog shit, so please stop jumping on the bandwagon to put others down. In fact, there is a noticeable improvement on how people behave when the subway train doors open as compared to a few years ago.

I can play the generalisation game, too. SOME white people, bogans and alike, are grossly dirty. They walk on the streets, in the park, or even to the loo barefoot. Surely they have considered possible contact with fecal matter, urine or heaven knows what else may come their way. Methinks not! Imagine they go straight into the household after all this, not to mention they don’t practice the Asian norm to leave shoes off just inside the front door. Although I have faith in them cleaning their feet before bed, the idea just makes me feel ill at ease that they might walk around on the contaminated carpet barefoot before getting wrapped in the quilt.

I think we are stereotyping the entire Hong Kong community based on the act of one annoying H.K. idiot and his friends (who are off camera and making comments to worsen the situation).  The H.K. guy is the type of guy who would be annoying in other situations even with other Hong Kong people.  He seems to be a troublemaker, and it is unfortunate that he is used to represent all H.K. people.  The people making sarcastic comments off camera about how one of the tourists know how to speak English, and regarding how the tourists are mainlanders are probably the H.K. guy's friends, not objective H.K. bystanders.  The tourists are wrong in that they did not offer to clean up the mess their kid made, which is infuriating to anyone who has any pride in the place they live in.  If someone comes to your home and spits on your carpet, are you going to just say "Oh, you can't spit in my house." and not get upset?  I agree that the H.K. guy got EXCESSIVELY angry, but the tourist was at fault also.  Now, the security guard not knowing how to speak Mandarin, yes, that was bad, I agree, but that doesn't mean ALL H.K.people don't speak Mandarain.  This professor Kong is an idiot.  He's suppose to be an educated man, but yet he cannot look at the situation objectively and provide guidance for those less educated to resolve the issue, to lessen the conflict, to treat the matter as an isolated incident.  Instead, he adds fuel to the fire, and claims that just because HE has not seen another situation where the people involved were not mainlanders, then that must mean H.K. people only treat mainlanders that way.  Wow...and this guy is suppose to be educated.  Can I now say that China education is worthless because this is the type of professors they turn out?  Of course not, because I know that would be stereotyping, but apparently, this so called "professor" doesn't understand it.  He gives educated people in China a bad image, just like Chinese tourists who litter, cut in line, spit on the ground, and squat on the floor give China people a bad image.  We all need to learn to look at things objectively, and not blame an entire community for the acts of a few.

Kong is a well known provocateur on the mainland, he has even insulted government officials. In Hong Kong, we also had this guy who insulted Filipinos, and this created an uproar in the Phillipines. I remember Hong Kongers said: What's the big deal. Well just look at the reactions of Hong Kongers. So is Hong Kong education crap, by your logic? So looks like you are also guilty of generalizing! BTW, Japanese also squat on floors, why isn't this an issue with Hong Kongers? Eh? Some years ago, when I was taking a KMB bus when an elderly Hong Kong man spat out of the window as the bus passed thru Mei Foo, and another lady sitting in the back got hit with phlegm. Sick. Spitting was quite common amongst the older generations of Hong Kongers, SARS put a dampener on it. And Hong Kong people do LITTER!

Hong Kong columnist insults Fillipinos.
http://www.gensantos.com/2009/...

Japanese squatting
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http://www.kirainet.com/englis...

So you are saying Hong Kong people are not Chinese???

You are pathetic and sounds like you yearn for the days of old when the people of Hong Kong were so thoroughly colonized that they considered themselves "British", when the actual British considered THEM nothing of the kind. How many of these so-called British were offered passports to the UK prior to the 1997 handover, for example? What a pathetic joke, these people. These "Hongkongers" (like you) are so deluded that to this day you look down on mainlanders as Chinese and yourselves as British (or at least non-Chinese as in this case), even as it is Chinese blood that courses through their veins every second of every minute of every day of your colonized lives. I've met several of these arrogant bastards like you during my travels, and have never hesitated to place my proverbial foot on your necks and leave a permanent scar on your egos.

Firstly I've never considered myself as british.
Secondly there are reasons for me to be look down on them (only to mainland china people but not to other nationality) even though deeply inside me I know racism is indeed pathetic. Do understand us and you will see why we are so against chinese tourists. 

Taiwanese, Japanese, American or Europeon tourists are well-behaved and so we welcome them. They have manners and good images.

- Mainland China women would like their children to hold a HKSAR passport and they all rushed to Hong Kong to give birth. Since you know hong kong is such a small city, when all of them rush to the hospitals, how are the hong kong mothers gonna give birth? What about those who aren't as well off as those Chinese?
Moreover, according to the nurses and doctors, quite a few of them got sward at because of the fact that they couldn't speak decent mandarin. Mate, shouldn't it be the other way round? You come to Hong kong and therefore you should speak cantonese (Well at least don't expect us to speak your language).
- Most of them never queue up for food/ museums or whatsoever. Why is it so hard to follow laws? I don't see why their lives more precious than others?
- Few of them actually allow their kids to take a shit in the public (shopping mall), which seems to be ''very hygiene''...
- They argue and moan about the fact that Hong kong people can't speak mandarin. Well, you chose to visit our city and we expert you to learn our customs too.
- Importing poison food/ bad quality goods to hong kong. Is this the way you should treat us? Where is the moral!
- Mainland has a communist system, they arrest people at will, arrest them when they speak their mind, limited interest access so their people doesnt know a thing about the world, they TV brainwashes people, their civil servant take bribery, their government lack of control in frastructure building causes bridges to fall, buildings to collapses, their government never tells people the real truth.
Etc.. 

So any reasons for us to be proud to be Chinese..?

Hate the fact that they are rich and they think they can do whatever they want in a foreign place. Thats just depressing.

I am of mixed race and it doesn't really matter in the end who is what and where... It's about respect.  You don't go over someone's house and make a mess of it and do as you please and vice versa... When in Rome do what the Romans do or Do unto others what you want done to you - simple...

中國人=歧視自己人 搞分化 見高拜見底踩 仇人富貴 厭人貧

漢奸/假西人/覺得高人一等

罵人蝗蟲同人地罵你係狗有咩分別!!!自欺欺人香港人

果個孔XX教授就真係狗來啦 搞分化晒中國人先安樂

英國報紙話香港人係狗又唔見班香港人示威!!!

中國人冇得救啦槍口對內不對外自己人打自己人覺得好勁咁

俾外國人笑你傻仔仲覺得好有型咁

I’m fed up with the so-called Hongkongers’ fence-sitting tactic and constant symptoms of identity crisis. They outright disacknowledge their Chinese identity as if they’re from superior stock when ramming venom down Mainlanders’ throat. The same pseudo-intelligent burks claim to be Chinese when seeking credit for their share of Chinese accomplishments, history, culture, language and what not. They don’t find the branding Chinese ambivalence-provoking to boot, when it’s spent in boiling blood to whine about racism. Hong Kong’s very own Frankenstein's bride, Aunty 夏蕙姨, is typical of the said despicable lot. In response to D&G's apology statement, she said, “Victory belongs to us, Hongkongers, not Chinese. Because they allowed Chinese to take photos, but not Hongkongers… We’re really Chinese (!) – we’re not Westerners – Westerners are foreigners. They don’t understand…”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... Delusion much? Keep your head in the cloud all you like, but at least be consistent when saying what you are for Pete’s sake.

Every one likes to take everything out of context.  

When hong kongers and Taiwanese or Singaporeans or Chinese Americans say "Im not Chinese" they mean Nationally.  

They are culturally Chinese but they don't want to be confused with Mainland.  Thats like in Mainland they assume all Black men are from Africa and all White men are from America 1st and European second guessed. It gets annoying to be wrongly identified as another nationality.  

So you say you are not Chinese??? Even Singaporeans say "I  am Chinese Singaporean". I lived in Singapore for 4 years, so I know. But you tell people you are not Chinese, even Hong Kong Chinese???? Sigh, even the British look down on people like you, did they give you a real British passport, not the bullshit BNO passport.

I guess that's why a lot of Hong Kongers immigrated to Canada and the U.S.  LOL!

Yeah, a lot of Hong Kongers also returned to HKG after the handover, boasting how they conned the Canadian government et al, LOL!

So the British are prejudiced against the Hong Kong Chinese also?

Yes, they were. They lived in the peak (no Chinese were allowed to live there till modern times, when the ban was lifted). They did not grant Chinese high government jobs. I happen to know a Hong Konger whose father was the first Chinese superintendent in the RHKP, there were before him. British citizenship was stripped in stages from Hong Kong born Chinese, the latest being the 1971 act. Notice, Hong Kongers are British subjects, not citizens. While the British expat lived in posh housing, many HKG Chinese lived in shanty towns, like Wong Tai Sin, Tsz Wan Shan  etc. The British infact turned a blind eye to the corruption in HKG, considering this a Chinese issue and so they be damned. It was only after the 1967 riots that Governor McLehose made some concessions to improve the lives of the locals. Britain ran colonies for profit, not valour.

Mainlanders and Hongkongners are different nationalities? I rest my case here.

Not sure if this would help... but as far as I know, the nationality stated in the traveling documents of Hong Kongers (BNO) is "British Hong Kong" and the nationality stated in the passports of Mainlanders is "China".  BTW, I am not arguing.  I am just stating a fact

The BNO is a big joke, in fact I have it, which I use as a spare passport to eat up stamps. I almost got arrested in Doha once because the officer thought I was using a bogus passport because it is ....ummm, not a real British Passport. He asked why I hadn't used my SAR passport as that passport is eligible for visa on arrival. The BNO does not get visa free access to Schengen zone and the holder has no right of abode in the UK. Once HKG was handed to the PRC, the British immediately granted full citizenship status to their other colonies like Gibraltar, Montserrat and others, talk about a slap in the face. The British don't give a shit about Hong Kongers, only idiots like you think otherwise.

Fancy that, a BNO passport, that doesn't endow the holder with the same set of common citizenship rights of genuine British subjects, makes Hong Kongers non-Chinese. How enlightening, NOT! Did the Pommies care a toss when the Hong Kong tourists of British nationals *coughs* overseas cried for help in Egypt after the 06' road accident? Who eventually extended generous support to bail their arses out of their misery?

I spent a few years of my youth in an African country. There was a coup and the military rounded up the Hong Kongers and said they were doing illegal activities. The PRC embassy came to our help, while the British really didn't care. Grievance is just an ignorant.

Your self-imposed ignorance and willful disregard are disgusting and boggle the mind. Race is Black, White, Asian; ethnicity is Cantonese, Chiuchow, Shanghainese. Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region under Chinese rule, hence it's no foreign soil to Mainlanders despite its independent customs and immigration controls. And Hong Kong residents of Chinese blood are, *gasps*, Chinese. It's a fact you have to deal with, whether you like it, or not. Heaven forbid you cloud your own eyes to where your heritage lies.

as if the HKeers was more sophisticated. It was famous for shoddy corner of fraud market, of Triads etc. You don't considered yourself CHinese? Probably you are Cantonese huh, no wonder.

I don't think that incident in the MTR and the TV show has anything needed to do with the British citizenship. It is just happening from the fact that Hong Kong people are used to live in a more civilized place (probably this has to do with the customs learned from Britain), but nowadays the mainland Chinese are trying to change their way of living.

bull shit you colonial worshippers are exactly what Lu Xun refer to as Se Cai (running dogs)

Matt, I grew up in HKG in the 70s and 80s, believe me, the streets were filthy, there was worship of money, HKG shop keepers were legendary in Asia for being rude, it was hardly a civilized place. They obviously teach you well. Afterall, many Hong Kongers lived in shanty towns in the old days while the British lived on the peak, they sure treated you folks well. Did they give you a real British passport (not the useless BNO) LOL!

見高拜見底踩 仇人富貴 厭人貧

I take it you really hate Hong Kong people?

I am from Hong Kong, we do have bigoted and ignorant folks, just as you have rednecks in the USA. LOL!

I watched vid twice, only to find out he'd never said it that way. What he said exactly was:

----The Hongkongers who talk "We Hongkongers and you Chinese..." are the 
bastards and dogs.

Probably some of them but definitely not all. On general the Hongkongers were harsher than overseas Chinese.

Typical human behavior...creating problems out of nothing...I have met both mainland and hong kongers and if they want..they can get along well...hell..its not that far...culturally i mean 99.99% of both of them are same people...

Common guys...just chill...You both have plenty to get along well with...and you are neighbors for aliens sake...Just take a step back and understand where both of you are coming from and take steps to be patient with other culture...in time...both of you will have a common ground to live together...

On mainland China, they seem to get along (for reasons of necessity, everybody's got to live and make money), but once you go abroad, the two groups dont even talk to each other...

Xiaochen, do you think they dare act that arrogantly on the mainland?

obviously not, if the mainlander has the guts to get into verbal fights with HKers in HK, they probably easily get away with physical fights on the mainland...

I love PKU!! and while I dont mostly agree with his ultra-nationalist BS, he does have a few valid/funny points... It's quite true that a majority of Hong Kongers are quite condescending on Mainland tourists (or just those who don't speak Cantonese, for that matter) and do have some sort of complex, which is kinda sad..

wonder what Confucius would say about this....

Maybe something like this:

The Master said, “See what a man does. Mark his motives.Examine in what things he rests. How can a man conceal his character? How can a man conceal his character?”

The Master said, “The superior man wishes to be slow in his speech and earnest in his conduct.”

This guy is hilarious.

No wonder they treat you like shit....it's because you spit/smoke/shit everywhere you go

Kong Qingdong can eat a bag of dicks.